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Wayback machine - way back?

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:56 pm
by DaddyHoggy
While looking for something else - isn't it always the way? - I stumbled across the Hardware page for those who maintain the Wayback Machine - this page can't be up to date can it? (120GB HDs!!!)

http://www.archive.org/web/hardware.php

Re: Wayback machine - way back?

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:51 pm
by Commander McLane
DaddyHoggy wrote:
... this page can't be up to date can it? (120GB HDs!!!)
I suppose you're right.

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:53 pm
by JazHaz
But it might explain why this site hasn't worked for about five years....

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:00 pm
by Commander McLane
Probably a bad proxy on your side? It works for me, although admittedly only partially. Not all archived versions actually exist.

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:38 am
by JazHaz
Commander McLane wrote:
Probably a bad proxy on your side? It works for me, although admittedly only partially. Not all archived versions actually exist.
What I meant was that it is no longer archiving websites.

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:08 am
by Alex
WOW...
That's looks like a pic od 486's stacked. maybe even 386's

Talking about HD's. Last I asked I could get a 1.4Tb for about $100

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:24 am
by Cmdr James
Lots of places use small disks in the server room.

In my experience there are 3 reasons:

1) They have had them for a while, and simply keep using them

2) The RAID hardware takes a specific disk so it is non-trivial to change

3) Backup space. There is no point having Petabytes of disk and only Terabytes of tape. A related point is backup time, Ive heard people say that a full backup of their data is essentially impossible due to the write speed of tape and the amount of data.

There is a related point, people often complain that their is a mailbox size limit at work and "I can buy a terrabyte for $100, how about a give you a disk and you remove my limit". Of course what they are missing is the whole big picture of large data storage.

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:05 am
by Alex
Cmd james said;
There is no point having Petabytes of disk and only Terabytes of tape.
Noo I know this may be silly Cmd'r

But what is a Petebyte?

I know by the new school of 'US' a Tere as in a Billion
is a thousand million,

where in the old school a billion is million million,
and a terillion is a million million.

Though back to the point...
Is 'Peta' Like "Pico" 10 to the 9?

I get confused as I grew up learning both Impearial and meteric

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:13 am
by snork
each step equals x1000 : kilo, mega, giga, tera, peta, ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SI_prefix

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:46 am
by Alex
Thank you Cmd Snork.
Though each time you jump a metric jump it's to the power of ten.
That's what makes it easy for our wee yins. THey have ten fingers.
Where the impearial measurments came with their stuff... Well let us try to think in base 12 mixed with base 18.

Ever tried to think in pounds, schillings, pence, and farthings, not to mention at least another few dozzen measurments.

So Cmd Snork, What power of ten + or - is a Peta?
A Billion being a Million Million = 10 to the 12
US a Billion is a thousand million, hardly worth the term BILLION.

NOO, "Peta" Doesn't realy fit for big numbers---

I have 10 peta...
sounds like pasta!

Hey.. I don't make the lingo here, I'm just born here.