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Bit of trouble from a newbie

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:42 pm
by Paranoid Android
Hey folks,

I used to run Oolite 1.65 on my old PC and it took me back a bit... I'm not old enough to have played the BBC Micro Elite but my dad hooked my brother and I when we were young on the Amiga version (Elite deluxe I think?) and on Frontier :P

Anyway, I'm supposed to be revising for my first year exams at University but a bit of procrastination lead me back to Oolite.

The problem is I can't seem to download the 1.72.2 version (or the 1.65 for that matter) from the berliOS website linked from the test release thread. The thread says it was available "from GUPRO" but the following hyperlink takes me to the berliOS link. The download is slow, around 7 kb/s despite me having a broadband connection, and stops all together after around 15 mins. Just wondered if anyone might be able to help; I assume the problem is to do with the server at berliOS

Cheers,
Andy

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:10 pm
by Ivan
The server knows you're supposed to be revising :twisted:

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:35 pm
by DaddyHoggy
Welcome P_A (are you called Marvin by any chance :) ) - anyway - you can find the latest version of Oolite from here: https://developer.berlios.de/project/sh ... up_id=3577

Now get back to your revision!! (I need talk - I read "The Lord of the Rings" rather than face up to Quantum Mechanics and Electromagnatism revision in my 2nd Year...)

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:00 pm
by Paranoid Android
Hehe, no my I've never been called Marvin :P and what's also funny is that I registered those as two of modules for next year! (I'm studying Astrophysics, sounds like your degree was/is something close to that...Lord of the Rings provided my A level procrastination :D)

Anyway, I get the following message when trying that link you just put, DaddyHoggy:

Secure Connection Failed

developer.berlios.de uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown.

(Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)

Hmm...

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:28 pm
by Thargoid
I get that certificate problem too, I think I always have. What OS and browser are you using?

But (at least on IE6 and WinXP that I'm stuck with here at work) you should just be able to click yes and carry on into Berlios. After that it's just pointing and clicking on downwards.

The direct links for downloading 1.72.2 for Linux are here and here.

For Windows they are here and here.

For Mac they are here and here

They do seem to be a bit slow in starting off, but after that they're fine for me (but then I'm on an office link and can download the Windows version in about 5 seconds). Try right-clicking on one of the relevant links above and save-as?

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:58 pm
by Paranoid Android
I'm using Vista ( :oops: ) and Mozilla Firefox.
Trying one of those links you put now and still going slow but I got 25% so far which is much more than before.... weird. Guess I'll try IE if this fails (duh for not trying that already).

Anyways, fingers crossed on this download. It's just odd that it's taking forever :?

Edit: packed in at 28%. IE downloading in the same manner. Slightly enraging...

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:07 pm
by DaddyHoggy
Paranoid Android wrote:
Hehe, no my I've never been called Marvin :P and what's also funny is that I registered those as two of modules for next year! (I'm studying Astrophysics, sounds like your degree was/is something close to that...Lord of the Rings provided my A level procrastination :D)

Anyway, I get the following message when trying that link you just put, DaddyHoggy:

Secure Connection Failed

developer.berlios.de uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown.

(Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)

Hmm...
Apologies I should have warned you about the potential faff (I too use FF) - you just make an exception (follow the little blue hyperlink at the bottom of the warning) and accept the certificate as it and it all works fine after that.

With regards to my Bachelors degree I did a Joint Honours in Physics and Computer Sciences (2/3rds of each of the straight single subject degree courses - very little time for the pub during that course.)

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:40 pm
by _ds_
DaddyHoggy wrote:
Paranoid Android wrote:
Anyway, I get the following message when trying that link you just put, DaddyHoggy:

Secure Connection Failed

developer.berlios.de uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown.

(Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)

Hmm...
Apologies I should have warned you about the potential faff (I too use FF) - you just make an exception (follow the little blue hyperlink at the bottom of the warning) and accept the certificate as it and it all works fine after that.
If you later want to remove the exception (and I've needed to do so once due to a new certificate), you can do so via the prefs/options window → ‘Advanced’ section → ‘Encryption’ tab → ‘View Certificates’ button, ‘Servers’ tab.

Iceweasel Firefox is doing the right thing here: FhG FOKUS is acting as its own certificate authority, and the browser doesn't have the CA certificate.

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:11 pm
by Paranoid Android
Yup, still no luck. Got to 69% and stopped. Boo hoo! :cry:

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:22 pm
by Cmd. Cheyd
Are you using any sort of download accelerator? If so, suspend it...

If you're using FF, try installing DownThemAll. It will let you pause and resume downloads. I've run into a few issues where a download stalls out. I just pause it, wait a second or so, then unpause... Suprise - It finishes downloading just fine...

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:27 pm
by Screet
Paranoid Android wrote:
Yup, still no luck. Got to 69% and stopped. Boo hoo! :cry:
Oh, well, since you said that you use Vista, maybe the delay has it's good thing, in case you didn't read already: Please install oolite to C:\games\oolite or such and not to program files (which is the default) if you use Vista as that stupid OS comes with virtual folders and thus creates a real problem. Editing files within the Oolite directory (if it's in program files) results in copies of these files being created in the virtual store and leaving the original untouched. That gets really problematic if you ever update any oxp's or want to play with different users!

Screet

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:13 pm
by Paranoid Android
Cmd. Cheyd wrote:
Are you using any sort of download accelerator? If so, suspend it...

If you're using FF, try installing DownThemAll. It will let you pause and resume downloads. I've run into a few issues where a download stalls out. I just pause it, wait a second or so, then unpause... Suprise - It finishes downloading just fine...
Tried using this plugin but it won't let me resume the downloads from the point where they fail, it just starts over from scratch :?

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:42 pm
by Thargoid
Try downloading it from here. It's on my webspace, I've uploaded a copy grabbed from Berlios.

It's just vanilla webspace, so should have no problems with security or anything.

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:35 pm
by Paranoid Android
Hooray! My brother downloaded it and sent it to me :) at last, the taste of delicious Oolite... the perfect accompaniment to revision... ahem :lol: thanks for all of the help folks, I'm just gutted that I didn't think of getting someone else to download it for me sooner. Not that that fixes any long term problems; I suspect my dad has changed some network settings at home since I was last here at Christmas, but I'm moving back to University (sadly not Ooniversity) on saturday so that won't be a problem for much longer.

Huzzargh! :D

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:09 pm
by harry747
DaddyHoggy wrote:
Paranoid Android wrote:
Secure Connection Failed

developer.berlios.de uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown.

(Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)

Hmm...
Apologies I should have warned you about the potential faff (I too use FF) - you just make an exception (follow the little blue hyperlink at the bottom of the warning) and accept the certificate as it and it all works fine after that.
when you do that, i recommend making that exception temporary. all you have to do is check (or uncheck?) a checkbox.