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Re: Skinner’s Den

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Not exactly sure what is asked... :? :lol:
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Re: Skinner’s Den

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cbr wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:13 pm
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Not exactly sure what is asked... :? :lol:
O my giddy aunt! If I start waltzing around the system in something looking like that, cousin Digby will have me defenestrated from his adjuratory balcony for Extreme Dominoes. Digebiti is English not Texan!

Actually I was hoping to get some instruction as to how to do it myself, ideally over Zoom or such, once I'd been told which AppleMac compliable software I'd need for the task...

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Re: Skinner’s Den

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Cholmondely wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 7:02 pm


Actually I was hoping to get some instruction as to how to do it myself.
There are probably 'dozen' ways to do it, here's one of my favo(u)rites

1] Take (a) PHKB skinjob.oxz make it an OXP
2] Pick the diffuse map you like inside of the OXP
3] Open it in graphical editor with layer possibilities
4] Overlay your LOGO in a layer above the diffuse map
5] Save / overwrite as png

Now one of the skins in the OXP is altered
Start up oolite goto the gallery and admire your work

Looking forward to a Cholly_phkb_skinpack.oxz ! :!:

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Re: Skinner’s Den

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cbr wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 8:10 pm
Cholmondely wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 7:02 pm


Actually I was hoping to get some instruction as to how to do it myself.
There are probably 'dozen' ways to do it, here's one of my favo(u)rites

1] Take (a) PHKB skinjob.oxz make it an OXP
2] Pick the diffuse map you like inside of the OXP
3] Open it in graphical editor with layer possibilities
4] Overlay your LOGO in a layer above the diffuse map
5] Save / overwrite as png

Now one of the skins in the OXP is altered
Start up oolite goto the gallery and admire your work

Looking forward to a Cholly_phkb_skinpack.oxz ! :!:

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1] Take (a) PHKB skinjob.oxz make it an OXP
Does this refer to his Ship Respray OXP or to his Factory Paint Jobs set of oxp's?
2] Pick the diffuse map you like inside of the OXP
How do I see what is in the diffuse map? The only images I can see are the .png files in the texture folders, I've never been able to open the models folder .dat files or the gubbins in the shaders folder. I have both Gimp and LazPaint (and maybe one or two other software packages over the years) which have signally failed to open up any of these. I think that Svengali's addons to Library.oxp might possibly work... but don't understand who to use them.
3] Open it in graphical editor with layer possibilities
As above - how? All I ever seem to see are ominous-looking icons nestling in the models & shaders folders...
4] Overlay your LOGO in a layer above the diffuse map
I presume that this will become obvious if I ever manage the above...
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Re: Skinner’s Den

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1] You could take any ship skin pack, just look for a visible diffusemap, factory paint jobs is good starting point because
it is more of less set up for customizing ( thanks phkb )

2] pick a visible diffuse map ( without applied alpha :roll: :wink: ) par example above I used phkb_ferdelance_diffuse_3.png

3] open phkb_ferdelance_diffuse_xxx.png in gimp

4] edit and save

sorry no mac hardware here...
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Re: Skinner’s Den

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Thank you for the above!
cbr wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 8:10 pm
4] Overlay your LOGO in a layer above the diffuse map
Righty-ho! I found one of Phkb's which I liked, and managed to open it "in layers" in Gimp.

What do I do next? Create another layer? And how do I import the various decals? There seem to be a zillion-and-one options and I understand nothing about any of them!

I'm using Gimp-2.10 if that has any bearing on the matter...
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Re: Skinner’s Den

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Cholmondely wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:38 am
cbr wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 8:10 pm
4] Overlay your LOGO in a layer above the diffuse map
open it "in layers" in Gimp.

Create another layer?
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1 ] Open / Overlay your LOGO in a new layer above the diffuse map

2] Move it around and/or scale it
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Not sure how GIMP works with layers when saving, but Oolite can't use them. I use paint.net normally, and the final step in creating a texture file is to merge all the layers into one. Once you do that, you then can't move the logos around - they're "burnt in" to one layer. GIMP may do this step automatically if you're saving as a PNG file.
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Re: Skinner’s Den

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phkb wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:14 pm
GIMP may do this step automatically if you're saving as a PNG file.
Yes :)
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