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Couldn't find 'Nova'...

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:50 pm
by JohnnyBoy
I'm in Galaxy 4 and have been given very useful advice from Eric Walch to install the 'Deposed' and 'Lovecats' mission packs. However, there was also talk about whether these missions would interfere with a G4 mission called 'Nova'.

However, I couldn't find 'Nova' at http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/OXP . Does this mean that this mission is already part of Oolite?

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:51 pm
by LittleBear
Yeah. Nova is one of the built in missions.

If you check the missions page here:-

http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Oolite_Missions it'll give you the links and short descriptions for the OXP missions.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:15 pm
by JohnnyBoy
Thank you, LittleBear! :)

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:48 pm
by Eric Walch
JohnnyBoy wrote:
Thank you, LittleBear! :)
As little bear says: it is one of the internal missions. I rewrote some lines of Deposed so Nova became part of Deposed. Problem with the nova mission is that there are two solutions. One is just jumping to the next galaxy. In my opinion that is just cheating. But by making it part of Deposed, you are forced to find a solution were you stay in galaxy 4 to proceed with deposed.

Nova is one of the missions in the original Elite. And when it is finished it leaves back a nova system. When this system happens to be part of an other mission, that other mission can never be completed. That is the reason why you want to do all other missions first. The Deposed mission ends in galaxy 5. But before you go for the cloaking mission in G5, fist play Lovecats to its end.

There is also the trident down mission in Galaxy 4. (I never played it, but will soon). That one seems not to play well with oolite 1.71. But Ramirez is atm busy to make an improved version of it. That one will also be mission clash proof, meaning that you should be able to run it simultaneously with other mission oxp's.

Conclusion: Galaxy 4 is crowded with missions to tempt you to not go for the cloaking device. In any mission after G4 you can cheat the enemies with your cloak.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:57 pm
by JohnnyBoy
Uhhhh, right. :? So if I install 'Deposed' and 'Lovecats', will 'Nova' and those two installed missions just work okay together without me having to worry about anything?

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:35 am
by Eric Walch
JohnnyBoy wrote:
Uhhhh, right. :? So if I install 'Deposed' and 'Lovecats', will 'Nova' and those two installed missions just work okay together without me having to worry about anything?
At least it was programmed in the intention they work flawless together. (But proof is in eating of the pudding). The latest versions of both have code in it that makes it more mission-clash proof.

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:45 am
by JohnnyBoy
Thanks, Eric. I've yet to move Deposed and Lovecats to my 'Extras' folder. I'm too busy flying between Anonrior, Lavebe and Gebiisso and fighting with the surprisingly high number of pirates that can be found there (surprising because all three are either tech level 13 or 14).

I've also found out what a pirate armed with a nuclear missile can do to my SuperCobra.... :cry:

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:48 am
by Eric Walch
JohnnyBoy wrote:
I'm too busy flying between Anonrior, Lavebe and Gebiisso and fighting with the surprisingly high number of pirates that can be found there (surprising because all three are either tech level 13 or 14).
Why surprisingly. I whould expect that there is much more high value stuff to be captured by pirates in such systems.

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:22 pm
by JohnnyBoy
I say 'surprisingly' because I always find plenty of GalCop Vipers in the high tech level systems (for example, Lezaer in Galaxy 3), and so pirates that cause trouble there tend to have short lifespans. :)