Elite and similar games

Vajo · Post by **Vajo** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:14 am

it seems that Wolf 359 is a standalone game and no OXP

TGHC · Post by **TGHC** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:40 am

It's an Oolite clone, the guy doing the textures did some for Oolite but got very protective of them and is doing his own thing now.

Vajo · Post by **Vajo** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:13 am

Is it possible to play the Oosat OXP's with wolf 359? I like the look of wolf 359. Ahruman do you work on wolf 359?

JensAyton · Post by **JensAyton** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:38 am

No. Wolf 359 is entirely unrelated to Oolite. That’s why we’re in Outworld. :-)

Vajo · Post by **Vajo** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:55 am

TGHC wrote:
It's an Oolite clone, the guy doing the textures did some for Oolite but got very protective of them and is doing his own thing now.

so thats false alarm

TGHC · Post by **TGHC** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:53 pm

Vajo wrote:
TGHC wrote:
It's an Oolite clone, the guy doing the textures did some for Oolite but got very protective of them and is doing his own thing now.
so thats false alarm

You took it the wrong way, sorry my bad.

They are following the same path as Oolite in terms of developing an Elite based game with better graphics etc, they are about 2 years behind and who knows if they will last the course. Several projects have started with good intentions an enthusiasm but rarely get beyond screenshots, or anything being playable. The two exceptions are TNK and oolite

Post by **dajt** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:37 am

DeepSpace wrote:
..Miangele. You're right of course. :) I just like stuff to be simple. My brain isn't very clever so I prefer stuff to be easy to understand ha ha ha. :) Deepspace will probably be a shadow of what Oolite currently is. But on the plus side it'll look nice, but thats about it LOL :)

Why don't you make your ship models and the algs you use to draw space/nebulae etc available to the Oolite coders?

3D model converters are not hard to write and Ahruman is changing Oolite to allow for more complex models than were available in the past.

DeepSpace · Post by **DeepSpace** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:28 am

Dajt. Well for starters the Nebula stuff is just a giant bitmap

So thats easy. Although I don't know how Oolite creates its background. I have a sphere mapped with the image, which has its draw order as the first and then everything else is drawn in front of it, if that makes sense.
As for the models I could give those out and in the future I will be happy to. Its just at the moment I've got a project I just want to try and see if I can finish.
As I've said many times already, if Deepspace falls through, I'd love to work with someone here in putting together a Deepspace OXP for Oolite. I just want to give my game a good go first.

Captain Hesperus · Post by **Captain Hesperus** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:41 am

And the best of luck to you, too!

Captain Hesperus

Post by **dajt** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:40 pm

Yes, you're drawing the nebula as part of the skybox before switching on depth culling. I didn't realise it was just an image.

I was thinking of trying to replicate how Infinity is doing them, using some sort of fractal approach. They look fabulous. But its more work than I can take on.

DeepSpace · Post by **DeepSpace** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:34 am

Yeah I just found a couple of nice Nasa pics of Nebulas. Created a huge bitmap, summat like 2880x1440 with a starfield on it and then copied and pasted the nebulas onto it. Its way too inefficient and uses a massive 11mb!! which is silly. I will be revisiting the background creation routines and come up with something far more efficent and with less memory usage. Hopefully it won't look much different though

Stainless Steel Rat · Post by **Stainless Steel Rat** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:19 pm

I just found out about Space Trader a 3D online action and strategy game. My first thought was: wow, great idea. Until I realised that there seem to be no flight and/or spacefight possibilities. I didn't try it but it's more first person shooter and trading.

It is played in your browser so you need a fairly good computer. You also need to install a browser plugin. However, the good thing is it's available for Windows, Linux and Mac.

DeepSpace · Post by **DeepSpace** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:16 pm

Anyone seen this (Mass Effect) for the Xbox 360? Looks incredible. Its a bit more story driven and linear. But if you could imagine the Planetary detail and the SpacePort Bar scene from this but with Eve style ships and Elite/Frontier controls, combat and Galaxy sized maps, then that would be Elite 4!

Makandal · Post by **Makandal** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:37 pm

As I already explained, I am having the hobby of 3D landscape imaging.
To draw nebulae, galaxy etc... I am using one plugin running on Moray. Moray is a ray tracing software using PovRay as ray tracing engine. It allows me to choose general colour parameters of the galaxy, the colour turbulence etc... and finally put stars, nebulae, nebulae spheres, comets, meteors etc... and choose their colours and shapes. If needed, I can create some bmp for whoever need it.

JensAyton · Post by **JensAyton** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:25 am

DeepSpace wrote:
Dajt. Well for starters the Nebula stuff is just a giant bitmap :) So thats easy. Although I don't know how Oolite creates its background.

See this thread.

Oolite Bulletins

Elite and similar games

Re: I see what you're saying..

3D Models and stuff

Nebulars

Mass Effect

Re: 3D Models and stuff