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I've often thought that the liners in the Liners OXP are just too big. Even with the scale issues Oolite has. So I've often thought about exploring something like this:



Conceptually they'd work the same way, just not be as big.

What do you think? Worth pursuing?

phkb wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 4:14 am

I've often thought that the liners in the Liners OXP are just too big.

Yes.

phkb wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 4:14 am

Even with the scale issues Oolite has.

Especially with regards to those issues.

phkb wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 4:14 am

What do you think? Worth pursuing?

Yes but they'd only really make sense in genuinely safe systems and I'm not sure that we have many of those left without employing your population control oxp.

Cruises with an armed escorts might exist put aren't likely if said escort still wouldn't deter pirates.

I was thinking that, given these are cruise liners, rather than just traders, they'd have a better group of escorts. Maybe Kraits and Gecko's, with an occasional Asp, rather than the usual Sidewinders.

Don't let me put you off, in fact, please continue. However, a cruise liner company that's regulatly attacked and occasionally fatally so is bad for business to put it mildly. Safest systems only is my suggestion but (genuine question) where are these systems post raiding parties?

Redspear wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 6:25 am

Safest systems only is my suggestion

And a good one. That also limits the numbers you see of them, so they'll stand out more.

Redspear wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 6:25 am

where are these systems post raiding parties?

Sorry, I'm not understanding the question. Admittedly, today has now been going on for 15 hours, so I'm probably not doing my best reading!

phkb wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 6:49 am

Sorry, I'm not understanding the question. Admittedly, today has now been going on for 15 hours, so I'm probably not doing my best reading!

Get some sleep and don't worry about it. If it doesn't make sense after that then it probably isn't worth worrying about

phkb wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 9:15 am

Actually, it makes sense that the corp states might be in a better position to fund Galcop livery for their spacelanes. And if I get the Anaconda Liners up and running, with them largely only being in the safer systems, there are some good components of a corp state oxp.

1) Just steal the Corporation names from the Liners oxp (Oocruise, P&Oo Cruises - are there YAH ads too?). For those playing with both, the Corporations are obviously big enough to run both sizes of Liner.

2) But where do the Liners go if they are stuck in the safe systems only? Are there chains of safe systems for them to get from one to another? Perhaps a better solution is to revisit the older Famous Planets Liners OXP which only travel the galactic Spaceway routes.

We could do with something that marked out the Spaceways (other than just the Fuel Stations - which seem ridiculous to me anyway - Thargoid/pirate/vandal bait!).

The Spaceways should also have better policing (thus encouraging the presence of the liners) and maybe even reduced pirate populations. Perhaps the livery of the Vipers should be used for that of each Spaceway? And then the Corporate police can have their own dedicated Saleza Ships or some such?

phkb wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 4:14 am

So I've often thought about exploring something like this:

Conceptually they'd work the same way, just not be as big.

I thought we already had liner anacondas back in the olden days. Before your time. So my question is, whatever happened to them/those?

The wiki page has this:

Conversions

Beerbaum and ThruSpace Inc. initially planned to make a passenger-carrying version of the mighty Anaconda, however, sales were not forthcoming - not due to any flaw in the ship's design, but mainly through lacklustre marketing to the spacelines. In the end however, human and feline investors seeing a market niche in economy passenger transport, joined to form Anaconda SpaceWays. From its inception route between Zaonce and Tionisla, it has eventually acquired a large fleet of converted Anacondas servicing a route network which covers most stable economy systems.

Anaconda hulls have also been converted into hospital ships for the GalCop Medical Corps, the cargo bays being refitted as surgical operating rooms and hospital ward facilities. Medical Anacondas provide medical relief in planetary-wide natural disasters or war zones.

The first sentence was Winston's (on the original 2006 wiki page). The rest added by Murgh a month later, who also included this:

== Download ==
The regular Anaconda is part of the standard game, however, the Anaconda passenger liner is an OXP ship.

Transports.oxp


(The link to the newest 2010 version is on this wiki page: Transports)

phkb wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 4:14 am

I've often thought that the liners in the Liners OXP are just too big. Even with the scale issues Oolite has. So I've often thought about exploring something like this:

What do you think? Worth pursuing?

You are wrong! They are not (too) big...

Spoiler

Worth pursuing YES

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 9:45 am

Oocruise, P&Oo Cruises - are there YAH ads too?

Had a look, couldn't find any specific cruise brands in there. Any other recognisable brands you know of that we can add an Oolite spin to? Carnival, Royal Caribbean, Cunard (Coonard - easy one), Viking Cruises.

Or just make up some? I'm really bad at that. I tend to try to find a system (eg, the Galaxy Names currently being discussed) and run with that, but that can be a bit bland. So everyone, pile in with your suggestions. Double points for suggestions that have easy to source/create logos for.

phkb wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 8:24 pm

Carnival, Royal Caribbean, Cunard (Coonard - easy one), Viking Cruises.

Nocturnal (bit of an obscure reference to travellers perpetually being asleep on account of the sun always being in view but it amused me anyway...)
Royal Vetititian (pre communist reference presumably)
Lizard Cruises
Mice Inc. Cruises (rodent company)

Ofcourse the Anaconda Cruiseline itself.

Lave Leisure Line

Redspear wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 8:55 pm

Royal Vetititian (pre communist reference presumably)

Thumbs up to this one! WB will love it too!

Viking Crooses? Sounds crass.
Voorgin Vooyages?
Cloob Med?

Onrira-Xexedi Line?
Tianvean Travels?

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 10:35 pm

Redspear wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 8:55 pm

Royal Vetititian (pre communist reference presumably)

Thumbs up to this one! WB will love it too!

Viking Crooses? Sounds crass.
Voorgin Vooyages?
Cloob Med?

Onrira-Xexedi Line?
Tianvean Travels?

Fred Oolsen?