[Release] Sidewinder NG

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[Release] Sidewinder NG

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Hi,

I share you attached OXP I've made because I want to play a Sidewinder in Oolite.

My OXP was based on Illicit unlock OXP by phkb and Jane's Galactic Shipset. The ship size is based on the Elite Dangerous version of the Sidewinder (https://www.elitedangerous.com/equipmen ... sidewinder).

Here's in game description :

The NG is a scaled-down version of the Sidewinder Scout with a modern and compact (but slow to engage) Witchdrive making it the smaller ship capable of hyperspace jump. Its great maneuverability and low cost make it a good choice for carriers or unwealthy systems police's fighters. The Sidewinder NG is built by Spalder and Starblaze for Faulcon de Lacy in Onrira Orbital Shipyards.

I think the price is appropriate for its performance, and its features remain very reasonable. In fact, with a Sidewinder NG it's better to avoid head-to-head combat and focus on its speed and agility.

Don't hesitate to suggest me any improvements you think would be useful.

I also would like to know the process to make it automatically available in Oolite expansions list once finished.

Thanks.
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Re: [Proposal] Sidewinder NG

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This version add the NPC Police ship.
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Re: [Proposal] Sidewinder NG

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DavidKroc wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:14 am
I also would like to know the process to make it automatically available in Oolite expansions list once finished.
Hiran is the expert in that department.

You might also wish to create a wiki page for it. Have a look at some of the others and decide what you want to do (this might also lead to more OXP tweaks). When you are ready, bug me if you want a wiki log-in.


Example Wiki pages:

Sidewinder - Oolite's vanilla Sidewinder
Sidewinder-X - very simple page
'Balrog'-class Dreadnought - a "secret" ship
Coluber Pitviper - more complex OXP with backstory and own HUD
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Re: [Proposal] Sidewinder NG

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Cholmondely wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:35 am
Hiran is the expert in that department.
Ok, I'll ask him.
Cholmondely wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:35 am
You might also wish to create a wiki page for it. Have a look at some of the others and decide what you want to do (this might also lead to more OXP tweaks). When you are ready, bug me if you want a wiki log-in.
Yup: I'll write a page for the Sidewinder NG and add links where needed.

Thanks for you help.

By the way, here's version 1.4 which corrects GalCop's ship names:

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Re: [Proposal] Sidewinder NG

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DavidKroc wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 4:49 pm
Well done!

You can also upload your current OXZ to the wiki and link it to the page ("Downloads" or some such).

I've added a note (https://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Talk:Sidewinder_NG) for your consideration.



Edited to add: Might a link to this be fun?
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Re: [Proposal] Sidewinder NG

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Cholmondely wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 5:53 pm
Well done!
Thanks.
Cholmondely wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 5:53 pm
You can also upload your current OXZ to the wiki and link it to the page ("Downloads" or some such).
That's what I've done. :D
Cholmondely wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 5:53 pm
I've added a note (https://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Talk:Sidewinder_NG) for your consideration.
I don't found how to answer your comment on the wiki so I answer there: I don't know Spalder and Starblaze nor Onrira Orbital Shipyards more than you do. I just copied these names from Sidewinder Classic page. :?
Cholmondely wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 5:53 pm
Edited to add: Might a link to this be fun?
Added! Thanks. :wink:
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DavidKroc wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 5:57 pm
I don't found how to answer your comment on the wiki
Very simple. You just edit the page. The etiquette is to just append one's own comment beneath the comment one is commenting upon:
Talk:"In System Trader OXP"

maik, please delete this page, it's an unintended duplication --Dr.Tripsa 16:28, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

You can add a template {{deleteme|Unintended duplication}} to request deletion. Svengali 13:12, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I redirected the page to In System Trader and marked it as duplication. Greeting: Makarius 06:58, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
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Link to expat? -A_H

only if elegantly woven into the text ;) Murgh
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I replaced the old image in the ship stat side bar with a new one of my own creation. Hope everyone likes it. -Haiavaha 06:45, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Not so sure...

Currently all ships are shown as rendered in-game, so your picture deviates from the (albeit unwritten) rule...

I like it, though, so I suggest you put it in-text, w/ a caption that has 'artistic rendering' somewhere in the text. (you could come up w/ a little story about a certain expat., people do things like that all the time, as long as the core-nformation stays up, a little -or a lot- artistic prose is always welcome

above comment comes from: --Rxke 13:01, 4 April 2006 (UTC) (yeah, forgot it AGAIN! There should be an autosig function for clumsy dorks like me...)

I think I agree. all the other ship pics are in situ Oolite, and although it's close, it isn't part of the game documentation that's established to be in that infobox. it's a good suggestion too, to move it into the contents of the article with a witty caption (and weave a story to the Ooniverse). hey it could be a still from a film with a starring Adder. think Herbie ;) --Murgh 17:38, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I just fixed it up. You guys are right, poeple would probably want to see the real thing first. Although, pretty much the only difference between the two pictures is some motion blurring and a planet. I could make a picture that looks really in-game, even though it isn't. What do you think? The benefit would be the lack of the HUD getting in the way. -Haiavaha 21:17, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

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Pretty easy to do, just type 3 or more of these in a row: ~

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and would produce this: ADCK 20:32, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Three in a row will do just your name. ~~~

and would produce this: ADCK

Just typing 1 or 2 of them in a row will do nothing. ~ OR ~~

Any more than 5 will just do the date with a bunch of tilde s after it.

You can also add italicisation/emboldening (''/''')
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Re: [Proposal] Sidewinder NG

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@DavidKroc: If your OXP is ready to be added to the Expansion Manager, have a look here for instructions on how to request its inclusion. You have done two thirds of the work already, you just need to raise an issue and make sure to include your download link.
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another_commander wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 5:57 pm
@DavidKroc: If your OXP is ready to be added to the Expansion Manager, have a look here for instructions on how to request its inclusion. You have done two thirds of the work already, you just need to raise an issue and make sure to include your download link.
I created an issue.

Thanks for your help.
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Re: [Proposal] Sidewinder NG

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It's now in the Manager.
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Great! :D

But how does the description comes in Expansions Manager?
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Not sure.

Up until we lost the old Oolite.org website. we did that ourselves. We would get a log-in password for the website and log in on the Expansions Pack page at the top. And all sorts of fun and games would ensue when minor discrepancies surfaced between the information provided to the website and the information previously placed in the manifest.plist!

Now, it is all done by the inner devotees of the Witchspace Lobster, who, gathering the information in their claws, dance widdershins around the statue of their deity, flinging their limbs wildly in the aquatic murk, screaming blandishments at their object of worship and performing unknown indignities on the information which we have proffered. Any information which survives then furtively finds its way to the Expansions List, seeking refuge and succour. Sometimes, some of it even gets published!
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Re: [Proposal] Sidewinder NG

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DavidKroc wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 3:31 pm
But how does the description comes in Expansions Manager?
The Expansion Manager just uses whatever you have put in the description field in the oxz manifest. In the case of Sidewinder NG the description reads as "Sidewinder NG", which is what is shown.
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another_commander wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 7:30 am
The Expansion Manager just uses whatever you have put in the description field in the oxz manifest. In the case of Sidewinder NG the description reads as "Sidewinder NG", which is what is shown.
Ok. I'll fix that in version 1.5.
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