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oolites-saves / the other way round

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:37 am
by Slartibartfast
Hello

I thing i am not the only one
-- on saving the game score i mostly use xxx.001, xxx.002, xxx.003. and so on

and when i want to reload a commander --- first i have to go through my older saves
instead of seeing the last one on the first page.

couldn't you change the order of the "saves" so that the new ones comes first?

regards
Matthias

Re: oolites-saves / the other way round

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:59 am
by Cholmondely
Slartibartfast wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:37 am
Hello

I thing i am not the only one
-- on saving the game score i mostly use xxx.001, xxx.002, xxx.003. and so on

and when i want to reload a commander --- first i have to go through my older saves
instead of seeing the last one on the first page.

couldn't you change the order of the "saves" so that the new ones comes first?

regards
Matthias
I wonder if this is to do with your computer's operating system.

On my AppleMac, the list of saves is presented in the standard AppleMac window for opening/saving files. My list thus has the most recent saves at the top (default), but I can click at the top of the date modified column, and I then get the oldest saves at the top...

Re: oolites-saves / the other way round

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:58 am
by hiran
Cholmondely wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:59 am
I wonder if this is to do with your computer's operating system.

On my AppleMac, the list of saves is presented in the standard AppleMac window for opening/saving files. My list thus has the most recent saves at the top (default), but I can click at the top of the date modified column, and I then get the oldest saves at the top...
Something like this should be OS independent. How on earth shall the OS know when you want the files sorted by name, by size or by date?
By default Unix (and I think meanwhile Windows as well) go for alphanumeric sorting by name. In the file system views like Nautilus or Explorer users can choose their preference which may even get stored for the next visit.

Only the user really knows, but the application can assume and suggest. In case of loading savegames I think it is reasonable to go for reverse-by-date sorting as default, which is especially important if the user cannot choose himself.

Re: oolites-saves / the other way round

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:13 am
by Cholmondely
It looks like this on the AppleMac:

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Re: oolites-saves / the other way round

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:33 am
by Slartibartfast
Hello

It seems, that on Mac, Oolite uses the fileselector ( window ) of Mac-OS.

But on Linux it looks very very different.
Here the selection of files is "inside" Oolite ( and therefore not
adjustable from the OS )

Max 13 files can be displayed at once - then you must go to the next side
-- so if you had a long run "yesterday" and wan't load the last saved game
you have to press "more" .. and ....wait
and again "more" ..and .. wait
and .........


matthias

Re: oolites-saves / the other way round

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:51 am
by Cody
Windows is in-game alphabetical, and I name my various (mostly forked) saves according to what they're doing or where they are.

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Re: oolites-saves / the other way round

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:08 pm
by Slartibartfast
Hi
I name my various (mostly forked) saves according to what they're doing or where they are.
o.K. -- but that is not a contradiction to my suggest
i simply like, that newest ones are listed first.

matthias

Re: oolites-saves / the other way round

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:12 pm
by Cholmondely
Cody wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:51 am
Windows is in-game alphabetical, and I name my various (mostly forked) saves according to what they're doing or where they are.

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So on the AppleMac all you get is the name, date and file size. No information about money, system, number of kills, or legal status.

Re: oolites-saves / the other way round

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:14 pm
by Cody
Cholmondely wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:12 pm
So on the AppleMac all you get is the name, date and file size. No information about money, system, number of kills, or legal status.
Or a nice spinning image of whichever ship that particular commander is flying. How very jobsian!

Re: oolites-saves / the other way round

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:10 pm
by Slartibartfast
for myself i found a acceptable solution

Before Oolite starts i check, whether the number of *.save is >= 51
if "yes", then i move the *.save - except the last 25 newest -
in a new, automatic created subdirectory

matthias