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What keyboard layout do you use?
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:20 am
by phkb
For this poll, the question is intended to capture what your actual keyboard layout is, not necessarily what you might currently use with Oolite (because, at least in Windows, you can force a particular layout on certain apps). I've stacked a couple of options in the list only because I'm limited to 10 options in the poll. If you have another layout in use, select the "Other" option and post the keyboard layout name.
Re: What keyboard layout do you use?
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:36 pm
by hiran
phkb wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:20 am
For this poll, the question is intended to capture what your actual keyboard layout is, not necessarily what you might currently use with Oolite (because, at least in Windows, you can force a particular layout on certain apps). I've stacked a couple of options in the list only because I'm limited to 10 options in the poll. If you have another layout in use, select the "Other" option and post the keyboard layout name.
Is there a reason why you put US and UK in one category? I am asking because those two typically are two different layouts despite both of them being QWERTY...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_a ... _keyboards
Re: What keyboard layout do you use?
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:38 pm
by Cholmondely
hiran wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:36 pm
I'd wanted to ask: why not replace
American with
Australian!
Re: What keyboard layout do you use?
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:44 pm
by hiran
Cholmondely wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:38 pm
hiran wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:36 pm
I'd wanted to ask: why not replace
American with
Australian!
I am not sure about the layout used in Australia. But there is one thing another_commander was right: Most european keyboards have the same ISO layouts and just the labels on the keys vary. US keyboards follow ANSI and then there is some japanese standard. Without better knowledge I'd have to guess the Australian layout.
Re: What keyboard layout do you use?
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:57 pm
by phkb
Cholmondely wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:38 pm
why not replace American with Australian!
There are no differences between an Australian and an American keyboard. We have the "$" on Shift-4, no pound symbol or Euro symbol, "@" on shift-2.
hiran wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:36 pm
Is there a reason why you put US and UK in one category
I only had ten options for the poll so I had to stack a few types. Of all the keyboard layouts where there are differences, though, these two are probably the most similar.
Re: What keyboard layout do you use?
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:10 pm
by ffutures
phkb wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:57 pm
hiran wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:36 pm
Is there a reason why you put US and UK in one category
I only had ten options for the poll so I had to stack a few types. Of all the keyboard layouts where there are differences, though, these two are probably the most similar.
The alphabet keys are the same but some of the punctuation keys are different, I remember having some problems with that the last time I tried touch-typing on a US keyboard.
Re: What keyboard layout do you use?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:16 am
by hiran
phkb wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:57 pm
Cholmondely wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:38 pm
why not replace American with Australian!
There are no differences between an Australian and an American keyboard. We have the "$" on Shift-4, no pound symbol or Euro symbol, "@" on shift-2.
hiran wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:36 pm
Is there a reason why you put US and UK in one category
I only had ten options for the poll so I had to stack a few types. Of all the keyboard layouts where there are differences, though, these two are probably the most similar.
Actually the UK keyboard follows more the German or european layout (it is ISO) with different key labels whle US is based on ANSI. Remember I am talking about pyhsical position of keys, not about labels and characters that usually get fixed by the keyboard driver or input locale.
Taken from Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_a ... _keyboards
The UK variant of the Enhanced keyboard commonly used with personal computers designed for Microsoft Windows differs from the US layout as follows:
* The UK keyboard has 1 more key than the U.S. keyboard (UK=62, US=61, on the typewriter keys, 102 v 101 including function and other keys, 105 vs 104 on models with Windows keys)
* The Alt key to the right of the space bar is replaced by an AltGr key
* the extra key is added next to the Enter key to accommodate # (number sign) and ~ (tilde)
* The £ (pound sign) takes the place vacated by the number sign on the 3 key
* The ¬ (negation) takes the place vacated by tilde on the ` (grave accent) key
⇧ Shift+` produces ¬
AltGr+` produces ¦ (broken bar, shown as a secondary symbol)
* € (euro sign) is produced by AltGr+4 and is shown as a secondary symbol
* @ and " are swapped (to ⇧ Shift+' and ⇧ Shift+2, respectively)
* The \ key is moved to the left of the Z key (⇧ Shift+\ still produces |)
* the Enter key spans two rows, and is narrower to accommodate the #/~ key
* AltGr+vowel produces the acute accent variant of that vowel as needed for Irish. Diacritics used in Scottish Gaelic and Welsh require the UK extended keyboard setting.
* Some UK keyboards do not label Backspace, Enter, Tab and Shift in words
The article even explains the mess australian users are in...