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OXZ Updates break installation

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So I finally got around to updating the OXZs via the manager and the process broke my installation. I had to wind up reinstalling Oolite after because 25% of the keys didn't respond, including "i" and "a" - arguably two of the most important keys in the game. In addition the HUD went all funny and incomplete. Reinstalling the game seems to have repaired things and no more crashes or weird behavior like keypresses not responding.

Here are the manual oxps, which i largely didn't touch, just pulled redundancies out:

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~/.Oolite/AddOns$ ls -1
adcks_eagles_v1.1.oxp
Arachnid_Mark_1_V1.01.oxp
Assassins.oxp
AutoSkim.oxp
BountyScannerv2.0.oxp
'BountyStatus 1.00.oxp'
'Cobra_Mk3_Subentmissiles_(Oolite_v1.80_and_higher).oxp'
'Condor v1.1.oxp'
Core_ships_suppressor_V1.1.oxp
"Coyote's Run For Griff.oxp"
'Destination ETA 1.0.8.oxp'
Diso.oxp
'Distant Suns of Chart 1 WIP 0.5.oxp'
'Distant Suns of Chart 2 WIP 0.5.oxp'
'Distant Suns of Chart 3 WIP 0.5.oxp'
'Distant Suns of Chart 4 WIP 0.5.oxp'
'Distant Suns of Chart 5 WIP 0.5.oxp'
'Distant Suns of Chart 6 WIP 0.5.oxp'
'Distant Suns of Chart 7 WIP 0.5.oxp'
'Distant Suns of Chart 8 WIP 0.5.oxp'
Escape_Capsule_Locator_1.4_2011-12-18.oxp
Extended_Shipyards_0.15_2012.06.24.oxp
Factions-1.12.oxp
FarstarMurderer1.1.1.oxp
'FTZ v0.15.oxp'
'Fuel Station 1.34.oxp'
'Galactic_Navy 5.4.3.oxp'
Griff_Adder_v1.04.2.oxp
griff_alloys_and_wreckage_V1.4.2.oxp
Griff_Anaconda_v1.04.2.oxp
Griff_Asp_v1.04.2.oxp
Griff_Asteroids2014.oxp
Griff_Boa_Mk2_v1.04.2.oxp
Griff_Boa_v1.04.2.oxp
griff_cargopods_v1.04.2.oxp
Griff_Cobra_Mk1_v1.04.2.oxp
Griff_Constrictor_v1.04.oxp
Griff_Decals_v1.0.oxp
Griff_ECMProofMissile_v1.02.oxp
Griff_Escape_Capsule_v1.04.oxp
Griff_Ferdelance_v1.04.2.oxp
Griff_Gecko_v1.04.2.oxp
Griff_Krait_v1.04.2.oxp
Griff_Mamba2013_v1.04.2.oxp
Griff_Mamba_v1.04.2.oxp
Griff_Missile_v1.02.oxp
Griff_Moray_v1.04.4.oxp
Griff_Python_v1.04.2.oxp
Griff_Shuttle_v1.04.2.oxp
Griff_Sidewinder_v1.04.2.oxp
griff_station_bundle_fullsize_tex_v1.2.oxp
Griff_Tharglet_v1.04.1.oxp
Griff_Thargoid_v1.04.1.oxp
Griff_Transporter_v1.04.2.oxp
Griff_Viper_v1.04.2.oxp
Griff_Worm_v1.04.2.oxp
ixianfreighter.oxp
JumpFailDetector.oxp
Main_station_rotational_slowdown.oxp
NRE249.oxp
'PlanetFall Link - Black Monks 1.0.oxp'
'PlanetFall Mission - Oo-Haul 1.11.oxp'
Povray_Planets_Galaxy1_Textures_v1.1.oxp
Povray_Planets_Galaxy2_Textures.oxp
Povray_Planets_Galaxy3_Textures.oxp
Povray_Planets_Galaxy4_Textures.oxp
Povray_Planets_Galaxy5_Textures.oxp
Povray_Planets_Galaxy6_Textures.oxp
Povray_Planets_Galaxy7_Textures.oxp
Povray_Planets_Galaxy8_Textures.oxp
Shady_blackmonks_v1.46.oxp
staer9_chopped_cobraV1.1.1.oxp
start_in_a_griff_cobra3.oxp
terrapin.oxp
Tianve1.3.oxp
tiger.oxp
'TOGY_Main 1.1.oxp'
TOGY_Memorials_v1.0.oxp
'TOGY_Monuments pack.oxp'
UrutaMK3
urutu_IV.oxp
velocity.oxp
vendetta.oxp
Victim11_1.0.oxp
xarik.oxp
XeptatlsSwordv1.0.2.oxp
And here are the managed addons:

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~/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns$ ls -1
'DTT.Atlas 1.1.Paradox.oxz'
'DTT.Cyclops 1.0.Paradox.oxz'
'DTT.Galaxy_Liner 1.0.Paradox.oxz'
DTT.Heavy_Metal.Paradox.oxz
DTT.Kraken.Paradox.oxz
DTT.Manta.Paradox.oxz
'DTT.MK-1 1.0.Paradox.oxz'
DTT.Tomahawk.Paradox.oxz
DTT.War_Lance.Paradox.oxz
DTT.Wraith.Paradox.oxz
oolite.oxp.AndreyBelov.BountyInformer.oxz
oolite.oxp.ArexackHeretic.att1.oxz
oolite.oxp.captain_beatnik.coluber_hud_ch01.oxz
oolite.oxp.CaptMurphy.EscortContracts.oxz
oolite.oxp.CaptMurphy.ExplorersClub.oxz
oolite.oxp.capt_murphy.Illegal_Goods_Tweak.oxz
oolite.oxp.CaptMurphy.PoliceIFFScanner.oxz
oolite.oxp.CaptMurphy.ShipStorageHelper.oxz
oolite.oxp.CaptSolo.Cobra_Mk3-XT.oxz
oolite.oxp.captsolo.copperhead21.1.oxz
oolite.oxp.captsolo.cougar_st1.5.oxz
"oolite.oxp.captsolo.simonb's_ships1.0.oxz"
oolite.oxp.captsolo.tori2.02.oxz
oolite.oxp.cim.camera-drones.oxz
oolite.oxp.cim.combat-simulator.oxz
oolite.oxp.cim.comms-pack-a.oxz
oolite.oxp.cim.cotbs.oxz
oolite.oxp.cim.energy-bomb.oxz
oolite.oxp.cim.escort-formations.oxz
oolite.oxp.cim.extracts-tre-clan.oxz
oolite.oxp.cim.new-cargoes.oxz
oolite.oxp.cim.ships-library.oxz
oolite.oxp.cim.skilled-npcs.oxz
oolite.oxp.cim.systemfeatures.rings.oxz
oolite.oxp.cim.systemfeatures.sunspots.oxz
oolite.oxp.ClymAngus.Kirin.oxz
oolite.oxp.ClymAngus.KirinSport.oxz
oolite.oxp.ClymAngus.NeoCaduceus.oxz
oolite.oxp.CmdrWombat.Deposed.oxz
oolite.oxp.CmdrWombat.ThargoidWars.oxz
oolite.oxp.cody.green-gecko-xl.oxz
oolite.oxp.Commander_McLane.Anarchies.oxz
oolite.oxp.Commander_McLane.Fireworks.oxz
oolite.oxp.Commander_McLane.Randomshipnames.oxz
oolite.oxp.Diziet.hyperradioCATACLYSM.oxz
oolite.oxp.Diziet.Q-Bomb-Detector.oxz
oolite.oxp.DrNil.Commies.oxz
oolite.oxp.DrNil.YAH.oxz
oolite.oxp.DrNil.YAH-SetA.oxz
oolite.oxp.DrNil.YAH-SetB.oxz
oolite.oxp.DrNil.YAH-SetC.oxz
oolite.oxp.DrNil.YAH-SetD.oxz
oolite.oxp.DrNil.YAH-SetE.oxz
oolite.oxp.DrNil.YAH-SetF.oxz
oolite.oxp.DrNil.YAH-SetG.oxz
oolite.oxp.EricWalch.DeepSpacePirates.oxz
oolite.oxp.EricWalch.PirateCove.oxz
oolite.oxp.EricWalch.TionislaReporter.oxz
oolite.oxp.Ferdelance_3G.oxz
oolite.oxp.Galileo.Ionics.oxz
oolite.oxp.Griff_alloys_and_wreckage.oxz
oolite.oxp.Griff.Cobra_MKIII_Alt.oxz
oolite.oxp.Griff.Griff_shipset_decals.oxz
oolite.oxp.JohnSmith.LoveCats.oxz
oolite.oxp.Knotty.mvm_veloceeappuntita.oxz
oolite.oxp.Knotty.RealisticStarsSSC.oxz
oolite.oxp.LittleBear.AsteroidStorm.oxz
oolite.oxp.littlebear.blackmonks.oxz
oolite.oxp.Lone_Wolf.ETTHomingBeacon.oxz
oolite.oxp.Murgh.HoOpyCasino.oxz
oolite.oxp.Murgh.NuVipers.oxz
oolite.oxp.Norby.Andromeda.oxz
oolite.oxp.Norby.Carriers.oxz
oolite.oxp.Norby.EscortDeck.oxz
oolite.oxp.Norby.EscortPack.oxz
oolite.oxp.Norby.Gallery.oxz
oolite.oxp.Norby.Headlights.oxz
oolite.oxp.Norby.TheCollector.oxz
oolite.oxp.Norby.Towbar.oxz
oolite.oxp.Okti.CargoScanner.oxz
oolite.oxp.Pagroove.FamousPlanets.oxz
oolite.oxp.Pagroove.Superhub.oxz
oolite.oxp.phkb.BroadcastCommsMFD.oxz
oolite.oxp.phkb.CommsLogMFD.oxz
oolite.oxp.phkb.EmailSystem.oxz
oolite.oxp.Pleb.TaxiGalactica.oxz
oolite.oxp.Ramirez.BlOombergMarkets.oxz
oolite.oxp.Ramirez.Dictators.oxz
oolite.oxp.Ramirez.ExecutiveSpaceWays.oxz
oolite.oxp.Ramirez.FeudalStates.oxz
oolite.oxp.Ramirez.FuelTank.oxz
oolite.oxp.Ramirez.IronRaven.oxz
oolite.oxp.Ramirez.MissilesandBombs.oxz
oolite.oxp.Ramirez.ResistanceCommander.oxz
oolite.oxp.Ramirez.SalezaAeronautics.oxz
oolite.oxp.Ramirez.TridentDown.oxz
oolite.oxp.redspear.additional_planets_sr_demux_alien_pack.oxz
oolite.oxp.redspear.additional_planets_sr_demux_earthlike_pack.oxz
oolite.oxp.redspear.additional_planets_sr_demux_ocean_pack.oxz
oolite.oxp.redspear.additional_planets_sr_demux_volcanic.oxz
oolite.oxp.redspear.additional_planets_sr_others_gas_giants.oxz
oolite.oxp.RobertTodd.Taranis.oxz
oolite.oxp.sirarian.sks-plasma-mk-1.oxz
oolite.oxp.smivs.aliens.oxz
oolite.oxp.smivs.BattleDamage.oxz
oolite.oxp.smivs.Clippers.oxz
oolite.oxp.smivs.contractor.oxz
oolite.oxp.smivs.ExtraFuelTanks.oxz
oolite.oxp.smivs.GalDrivePod.oxz
oolite.oxp.smivs.yellooCabs.oxz
oolite.oxp.spara.additional_planets_sr_base-TWEAK.oxz
oolite.oxp.spara.additional_planets_sr_demux_gas_giants.oxz
oolite.oxp.spara.additional_planets_sr_pack_redux.oxz
oolite.oxp.spara.audible_docking_clearance.oxz
oolite.oxp.spara.behemoth.oxz
oolite.oxp.spara.ImperialAstrofactory.oxz
oolite.oxp.spara.in-system_taxi.oxz
oolite.oxp.spara.market_inquirer.oxz
oolite.oxp.spara.market_observer.oxz
oolite.oxp.spara.ore_processor.oxz
oolite.oxp.spara.random_hits.oxz
oolite.oxp.spara.random_player-ship_name.oxz
oolite.oxp.spara.rescue_stations.oxz
oolite.oxp.spara.stations_for_extra_planets.oxz
"oolite.oxp.superbatprime.Ship's_Cat.oxz"
oolite.oxp.Svengali.BGS.oxz
oolite.oxp.Svengali.CCL.oxz
oolite.oxp.Svengali.HyperradioJFRG01.oxz
oolite.oxp.Svengali.Hyperradio.oxz
oolite.oxp.Svengali.HyperradioPSY01.oxz
oolite.oxp.Svengali.HyperradioST01.oxz
oolite.oxp.Svengali.HyperradioST02.oxz
oolite.oxp.Svengali.HyperradioTN01.oxz
oolite.oxp.Svengali.Library.oxz
oolite.oxp.Svengali.OXPConfig.oxz
oolite.oxp.Svengali.Snoopers.oxz
oolite.oxp.Svengali.Vector.oxz
oolite.oxp.Switeck.Cargo-Contract-Mod.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.Aquatics.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.Armoury.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.Bigships.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.FlightLog.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.FuelStation.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.Gates.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.HiredGuns.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.LaveAcademy.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.Liners.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.MilFuelInj.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.PlanetaryCompass.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.PlanetaryCompassPackA.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.PlanetaryCompassPackB.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.PlanetaryCompassPackC.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.PlanetaryCompassPackD.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.Planetfall-OoHaul.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.Planetfall.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.TAP.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.TCAT.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.TrackerCam.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.Tracker.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.Vortex.oxz
oolite.oxp.UK_Eliter.ExtraThargoids.oxz
oolite.oxp.UK_Eliter.InterstellarTweaks.oxz
oolite.oxp.UK_Eliter.SuperSidewinder.oxz
oolite.oxp.Wildeblood.ai_trading_purchase_book.oxz
oolite.oxp.Wildeblood.Display_Reputation.oxz
oolite.oxp.Wildeblood.galaxy_names.oxz
oolite.oxp.zireael.laser-colors.oxz
uk.org.rockthehalo.oolite.oxp.Tricky.Jaguar_Company.oxz
I didn't unfortunately keep any logs (you know how it is troubleshooting, restarting until things work), but hopefully there enough to go on here. This is Oolite 1.9 running on linux.

Oh yeah, i guess the one thing that still doesn't seem right is the start screen - no more ship previews. However if that's the only issue after all the updates, i'm not losing sleep. :)


EDIT: And one other issue (though not related to the OXZ update) is that some keys (particularly the yaw and "i" injectors) suddenly stop working and i have to release the key and depress it again. Quite annoying when it comes to injectors. I've noticed this behavior before the update, and I even tried a different keyboard, just to be sure. It should be noted that no other program/game does this, so I'm fairly certain it is an Oolite issue.

Thanks for reading...!
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Re: OXZ Updates break installation

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you have indeed something conflicting... and as I experienced myself many failures and freezes while adding stuff, I would recommend to be careful with ships and models.
Here is my list of OXPs, and none is causing troubles:

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/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns (about 110)
total 1054728
oolite.hud.data.Wildeblood.Docked_HUDs.oxz
oolite.oxp.AndreyBelov.BountyInformer.oxz
oolite.oxp.another_commander.188NSGMaps.oxz
oolite.oxp.ArexackHeretic.CargoWreck.oxz
oolite.oxp.Astrobe.luckycharm.oxz
oolite.oxp.astrobe.missiles.oxz
oolite.oxp.Astrobe.smallships.oxz
oolite.oxp.blackwolf.wanted_posters.oxz
oolite.oxp.ByronArn.AutoRefuel.oxz
oolite.oxp.CaptMurphy.ExplorersClub.oxz
oolite.oxp.CaptMurphy.ShipStorageHelper.oxz
oolite.oxp.captsolo.solos-good-fortune.oxz
oolite.oxp.cim.camera-drones.oxz
oolite.oxp.cim.combat-simulator.oxz
oolite.oxp.cim.comms-pack-a.oxz
oolite.oxp.cim.extracts-tre-clan.oxz
oolite.oxp.cim.new-cargoes.oxz
oolite.oxp.cim.ships-library.oxz
oolite.oxp.Commander_McLane.Display_reputation.oxz
oolite.oxp.Commander_McLane.Interstellar_Help.oxz
oolite.oxp.Commander_McLane.Randomshipnames.oxz
oolite.oxp.Commander_McLane.Sell_Equipment.oxz
oolite.oxp.Commander_McLane.Total_patrol.oxz
oolite.oxp.dybal.rockHermitBeacons.oxz
oolite.oxp.EricWalch.TionislaReporter.oxz
oolite.oxp.hoqllnq.missile-beep.oxz
oolite.oxp.Ngalo.N-Shields.oxz
oolite.oxp.Norby.CombatMFD.oxz
oolite.oxp.Norby.Gallery.oxz
oolite.oxp.Norby.HUDSelector.oxz
oolite.oxp.Norby.ILS.oxz
oolite.oxp.Norby.LogEvents.oxz
oolite.oxp.Norby.SafetyCatch.oxz
oolite.oxp.Norby.Telescope_Extender.oxz
oolite.oxp.Norby.Telescope.oxz
oolite.oxp.Norby.TorusToSun.oxz
oolite.oxp.Norby.Towbar.oxz
oolite.oxp.Pagroove.FamousPlanets.oxz
oolite.oxp.phkb.AutoDock.oxz
oolite.oxp.phkb.BroadcastCommsMFD.oxz
oolite.oxp.phkb.BulletinBoardSystem.oxz
oolite.oxp.phkb.CommsLogMFD.oxz
oolite.oxp.phkb.ContractsOnBB.oxz
oolite.oxp.phkb.DamageReportMFD.oxz
oolite.oxp.phkb.DeathComms.oxz
oolite.oxp.phkb.DisplayCurrentCourse.oxz
oolite.oxp.phkb.EmailSystem.oxz
oolite.oxp.phkb.FontNovaSquare.oxz
oolite.oxp.phkb.FuelTweaks.oxz
oolite.oxp.phkb.GalacticRegistry.oxz
oolite.oxp.phkb.HomeSystem.oxz
oolite.oxp.phkb.MFDFastConfiguration.oxz
oolite.oxp.phkb.NoMarketNotification.oxz
oolite.oxp.phkb.SystemDataConfig.oxz
oolite.oxp.phkb.TionislaOrbitalGraveyard_Monuments.oxz
oolite.oxp.phkb.TionislaOrbitalGraveyard.oxz
oolite.oxp.phkb.TionislaOrbitalGraveyard_Shipwrecks.oxz
oolite.oxp.phkb.ZGrOovy_VarietyPack.oxz
oolite.oxp.popsch.Stashes.oxz
oolite.oxp.Ramen.Mutabilis-Ships_Library.oxz
"oolite.oxp.Ramen.Status_Quo-Ship's_Library.oxz"
oolite.oxp.Ramirez.BlOombergMarkets.oxz
oolite.oxp.Ramirez.FuelTank.oxz
oolite.oxp.redspear.traffic_redistributer.oxz
'oolite.oxp.smivs.Delightful Docking.oxz'
oolite.oxp.smivs.ExtraFuelTanks.oxz
oolite.oxp.spara.audible_docking_clearance.oxz
oolite.oxp.spara.countdown_to_zero.oxz
oolite.oxp.spara.manifest_mfd.oxz
oolite.oxp.spara.market_observer.oxz
oolite.oxp.spara.navigation_mfd.oxz
oolite.oxp.spara.random_player-ship_name.oxz
oolite.oxp.spara.station_ads.oxz
oolite.oxp.spara.TechnicalReferenceLibrary.oxz
oolite.oxp.spara.trophy_collector.oxz
oolite.oxp.Storm.TionislaChronicleArray.oxz
oolite.oxp.stranger.HabitableMainPlanets.oxz
oolite.oxp.stranger.InternalFuelTank.oxz
oolite.oxp.stranger.PlanetarySystems.oxz
oolite.oxp.stranger.PlanetarySystemsTexturePack_A.oxz
oolite.oxp.stranger.PlanetarySystemsTexturePack_B.oxz
oolite.oxp.stranger.PlanetarySystemsTexturePack_C.oxz
oolite.oxp.stranger.PlanetarySystemsTexturePack_D.oxz
oolite.oxp.stranger.PlanetarySystemsTexturePack_E.oxz
oolite.oxp.stranger.PlanetarySystemsTexturePack_F.oxz
oolite.oxp.stranger.PlanetarySystemsTexturePack_G.oxz
oolite.oxp.stranger.PlanetarySystemsTexturePack_H.oxz
oolite.oxp.stranger.SunGear.oxz
"oolite.oxp.superbatprime.Ship's_Cat.oxz"
oolite.oxp.Svengali.BGS.oxz
oolite.oxp.Svengali.CCL.oxz
oolite.oxp.Svengali.GNN.oxz
oolite.oxp.Svengali.HyperradioAFC01.oxz
oolite.oxp.Svengali.HyperradioHH01.oxz
oolite.oxp.Svengali.HyperradioJFRG01.oxz
oolite.oxp.Svengali.Hyperradio.oxz
oolite.oxp.Svengali.HyperradioST01.oxz
oolite.oxp.Svengali.HyperradioST02.oxz
oolite.oxp.Svengali.Library.oxz
oolite.oxp.Svengali.OXPConfig.oxz
oolite.oxp.Svengali.Snoopers.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.CommandersLog.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.EscapePodLocator.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.FlightLog.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.LaveAcademy.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.OoCheat.oxz  :arrow: and I am aware of using this one, but only for testing purpose with cpt. Cheater  :wink: 
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.Pods.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.RetroRockets.oxz
oolite.oxp.Thargoid.TrackerCam.oxz
oolite.oxp.wesfire.StarSystemLaneIndicator.oxz
oolite.oxp.Wildeblood.Contracted_Goods_Reminder.oxz
oolite.oxp.Wildeblood.galaxy_names.oxz
oolite.oxp.Wildeblood.interfaces_screen.oxz
oolite.oxp.z.phkb.XenonUI.oxz
oolite.oxp.z.phkb.XenonUIResourcesN.oxz
oolite.oxp.ZygoUgo.Explosions.oxz
oolite.oxp.ZygoUgo.ZygoCinematicSkyNebulas.oxz
oolite.oxp.zzz.Montana05.resource_pack_01.oxz
oolite.oxp.zzz.Montana05.SIRF.oxz
tws_satnav.oxz
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Re: OXZ Updates break installation

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commander_STyx2909 wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:45 pm
you have indeed something conflicting... and as I experienced myself many failures and freezes while adding stuff, I would recommend to be careful with ships and models.
Here is my list of OXPs, and none is causing troubles:
Cool - thanks for sharing that - there are a quite a few overlaps - good taste :)

Since everything is working at the moment now that i've reinstalled, i probably won't play with it unless a problem comes up (if it ain't broke don't fix it). What i might do is update one pack at a time and see what causes the problem - but that'll be a bit tedious so i'll need some motivation (i do have the original OXZs still). I just thought I'd mention the issue in hopes that something might pop for someone reading and go "ah, I see what is wrong here".
"I'll laser the mark all while munching a fistful of popcorn." - Markgräf von Ededleen, Marquess, Brutal Great One, Assassins' Guild Exterminator
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At the helm of the Caduceus Omega, 'Murderous Morrígan'
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