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Re: Recovering "Lost" OXPs
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:08 pm
by Norby
dybal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:02 pm
That's the one that gets separated lasers, isn't it?
Note about
Separated Lasers the needed distance for separation (to do not suffer multiple heat when firing) is calculated in 3D, so not only the distance in x-axis counts, but y and z-axises too. When the weapon positions are in the same level in the vertical y-axis, you can use the
Pythagorean theorem on the differences of x and z coordinates to determine the exact distance.
Most lasers need 30m, but some (the new better ones) need 50m for separation, as you can see in the second column in
this table.
Chimera Gunship's forward center laser position is 68m far in the z axis from the side ones, so the smallest distance is 63m between the x coordinates of the two side lasers, eligible for the 50m separation.
I have a suggestion for the aft lasers below: if you move the firing position of one at least 48m forwad in the z-axis, you can get separated aft lasers too and the laser beam visually still start within the hull.
Code: Select all
"weapon_position_forward" = // triple fore lasers, 50 m seperated
(
"31.5 9.3 -11.0",
"0.0 7.0 57.0",
"-31.5 9.3 -11.0"
);
"weapon_position_aft" = // double rear lasers, 50 m seperated
(
"8.0 -1.0 -38.0",
"-8.0 -1.0 10.0"
);
Re: Recovering "Lost" OXPs
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:18 pm
by montana05
Norby wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:08 pm
Most lasers need 30m, but some (the new better ones) need 50m for separation, as you can see in the second column in
this table.
Chimera Gunship's forward center laser position is 68m far in the z axis from the side ones, so the smallest distance is 63m between the x coordinates of the two side lasers, eligible for the 50m separation.
I have a suggestion for the aft lasers below: if you move the firing position of one at least 48m forwad in the z-axis, you can get separated aft lasers too
Thanks a lot Norby,
my current assigment is:
Code: Select all
"weapon_position_forward" = // triple fore lasers, 30 m seperated
(
"31.5 9.3 -11.0",
"0.0 7.0 57.0",
"-31.5 9.3 -11.0"
);
"weapon_position_aft" = // double rear lasers, not seperated
(
"8.0 -1.0 -38.0",
"-8.0 -1.0 -38.0"
);
but your suggestion sounds a lot better. I think with the next update I will include your positions.
Re: Recovering "Lost" OXPs
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:27 am
by Cholmondely
Solar System .oxps
There used to be Lave, Tianve, Riredi & Diso.
(were there any others? Tionisla seems to have come in several chunks rather than just the one .oxp!)
I've managed to get copies of the first three (they only seem to work with v.1.77 not v.1.88).
Any ideas as to how I can get my grubby paws on Diso? Box are being recalcitrant as usual.
Re: Recovering "Lost" OXPs
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:24 pm
by montana05
Could you please provide us with some links ? There is a good chance that we could make them work on later versions as well, it just will take time because the current queue is pretty long. After GalTech is finished Isis Interstellar is next, between I probably will finish my (still) pending star wars remake.
Re: Recovering "Lost" OXPs
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:15 pm
by dybal
montana05 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:24 pm
Could you please provide us with some links ? There is a good chance that we could make them work on later versions as well, it just will take time because the current queue is pretty long. After GalTech is finished Isis Interstellar is next, between I probably will finish my (still) pending star wars remake.
And I can upload them with the other candidates for a re-write and include links in the index in the topic's first post.
Re: Recovering "Lost" OXPs
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:49 pm
by Cholmondely
montana05 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:24 pm
Could you please provide us with some links ?
A pleasure!
Diso:
http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Diso_OXP
Lave:
http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Lave_OXP - this one is quite detailed and true to the lore
Riredi:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=16237 - this one is fun.
Tianve:
http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Tianve_OXP - Drew advertising himself! Good fun - especially the stickers!
Oh! And just discovered Taranis.oxp:
http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Taranis_OXP - not yet visited (downloads from wiki page)!
Re: Recovering "Lost" OXPs
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:02 pm
by dybal
Couldn't download Diso and Tianve from those links.
Taranis is already on the Expansion Manager
Re: Recovering "Lost" OXPs
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:17 pm
by dybal
Uploaded Tianve and Riredi to the wiki and defined a manifest for them... now available on the Expansion Manager.
Diso and Lave don't have a license, so I included them (with links for download of the original files) in the index at the topic's first post.
Re: Recovering "Lost" OXPs
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:21 pm
by Cholmondely
Did the original Taranis feature a mission? There are a couple of early mentions of it along with Lave & Diso as an ambience style .oxp.
Re: Recovering "Lost" OXPs
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:50 pm
by dybal
Cholmondely wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:21 pm
Did the original Taranis feature a mission? There are a couple of early mentions of it along with Lave & Diso as an ambience style .oxp.
No idea, I just checked that the version number of the one in the Expansion Manager matches the one in the link you supplied.
EDIT: had a quick look at the code, it seems it has a mission.
Re: Recovering "Lost" OXPs
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:31 pm
by Cholmondely
Did you see this one?
http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Croydon_Starsoarer
Glorious, glorious Croydon!
Do you know, if you wander into the town centre and look upwards at the night sky, all the stars go around your head!
It
must be the centre of the Ooniverse!*
_______________________________________________________
*
Stuck somewhere between galaxies 4 & 5
Re: Recovering "Lost" OXPs
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:34 am
by montana05
Cholmondely wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:31 pm
Did you see this one?
http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Croydon_Starsoarer
Glorious, glorious Croydon!
Do you know, if you wander into the town centre and look upwards at the night sky, all the stars go around your head!
It
must be the centre of the Ooniverse!*
_______________________________________________________
*
Stuck somewhere between galaxies 4 & 5
Yes, I recognized it before but put the priority to low, its 10 years now so I guess the chances are pretty slim. However, thank you for reporting us.
Re: Recovering "Lost" OXPs
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:07 pm
by Cholmondely
Re: Recovering "Lost" OXPs
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:25 pm
by dybal
That one is by Spara, who is still around. I have a copy, but I will PM him to see if he's OK with it being put in the Expansion Manager.
Re: Recovering "Lost" OXPs
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:38 pm
by Cholmondely
And here's yet another: Flying Dutchman:
http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Flying_Dutchman_OXP
Apologies: I come across them in drips and drabs!