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Anti Aliasing

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Hi, I'm using Oolite 1.82 64 bits in Windows 8, and I would like to set anti aliasing, I read that Oolite supports anti aliasing and you can set it in the .GNUstepDefaults file in the oolite.app/GNUstep/Defaults directory with the line

"anti-aliasing"=1;

well, I did it but I see no difference at all, I tried "anti-aliasing"=YES too and no results.

It is possible to have anti-aliasing? Am I doing something wrong or missed something?

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Re: Anti Aliasing

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I am not sure I have seen any difference with or without the defaults anti-aliasing switch either, but to be honest I've never paid too close attention to it. It may be possible that driver antialiasing settings are overriding whatever it is that SDL is trying to do?
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Re: Anti Aliasing

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I have my nVidia CP set to override application AA settings (for Oolite) - but I wasn't aware that Oolite had its own AA setting.
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Re: Anti Aliasing

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In the driver config I have anti-aliasing "configured by application", the other option is "disabled"...
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Re: Anti Aliasing

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What video card do you have? Could you please post the beginning of a log, where the list of OpenGL version and extensions are provided?
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Re: Anti Aliasing

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Oh, I have an Intel HD Graphics 4000.

The beginning of the log:

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Opening log for Oolite version 1.82 (x86-64) under Windows 6.2.9200  64-bit at 2016-04-14 00:09:59 -0300.
4 processors detected.
Build options: OpenAL, new planets.

Note that the contents of the log file can be adjusted by editing logcontrol.plist.

00:10:01.304 [display.mode.list.native]: Windows native resolution detected: 1920 x 1080
00:10:01.396 [joystick.init]: Number of joysticks detected: 0
00:10:01.396 [rendering.opengl.version]: OpenGL renderer version: 4.0.0 ("4.0.0 - Build 10.18.10.4226"). Vendor: "Intel". Renderer: "Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000".
00:10:01.396 [rendering.opengl.extensions]: OpenGL extensions (169):
GL_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB, GL_ARB_transform_feedback_instanced, GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_internalformat_query2, GL_ARB_draw_instanced, GL_ARB_half_float_vertex, GL_ARB_buffer_storage, GL_EXT_texture3D, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array, GL_ARB_gpu_shader_fp64, GL_EXT_texture_shared_exponent, GL_ARB_framebuffer_object, GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_shadow_funcs, GL_ARB_gpu_shader5, GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_ARB_texture_rgb10_a2ui, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map_array, GL_ARB_texture_compression_rgtc, GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_half_float_pixel, GL_EXT_stencil_two_side, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two, GL_ATI_separate_stencil, GL_ARB_shading_language_packing, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_ARB_texture_storage_multisample, GL_ARB_sync, GL_ARB_compatibility, GL_ARB_sampler_objects, GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays, GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint, GL_ARB_map_buffer_range, GL_ARB_vertex_shader, GL_ARB_shader_objects, GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays, GL_ARB_vertex_program, GL_ARB_get_program_binary, GL_ARB_base_instance, GL_INTEL_performance_queries, GL_ARB_texture_float, GL_ARB_draw_buffers_blend, GL_ARB_texture_compression_bptc, GL_ARB_fragment_coord_conventions, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, GL_EXT_texture_swizzle, GL_ARB_shader_precision, GL_ARB_uniform_buffer_object, GL_NV_primitive_restart, GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit, GL_ARB_vertex_array_bgra, GL_ARB_texture_gather, GL_ARB_texture_compression, GL_KHR_debug, GL_ARB_vertex_array_object, GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_ARB_texture_query_lod, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_texture_integer, GL_ARB_texture_swizzle, GL_EXT_gpu_shader4, GL_ARB_sample_shading, GL_ARB_shader_bit_encoding, GL_EXT_transform_feedback, GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc, GL_ARB_tessellation_shader, GL_ARB_occlusion_query2, GL_ARB_ES3_compatibility, GL_ARB_debug_output, GL_ARB_timer_query, GL_ARB_depth_clamp, GL_ARB_point_sprite, GL_ARB_framebuffer_no_attachments, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object, GL_NV_blend_square, GL_ARB_vertex_attrib_binding, GL_ARB_instanced_arrays, GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample, GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_seamless_cube_map, GL_ARB_copy_buffer, GL_EXT_texture_storage, GL_ARB_draw_elements_base_vertex, GL_ARB_geometry_shader4, GL_ARB_transform_feedback2, GL_ARB_multi_draw_indirect, GL_ARB_transform_feedback3, GL_ARB_viewport_array, GL_ARB_shadow, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow, GL_ARB_internalformat_query, GL_ARB_texture_storage, GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_ARB_texture_multisample, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_stencil_texturing, GL_EXT_texture_snorm, GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_depth_buffer_float, GL_EXT_texture_sRGB_decode, GL_ARB_shading_language_420pack, GL_ARB_vertex_type_2_10_10_10_rev, GL_ARB_robustness, GL_ARB_texture_rg, GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_sRGB, GL_KHR_blend_equation_advanced, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_WIN_swap_hint, GL_ARB_fragment_program, GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location, GL_EXT_packed_float, GL_ARB_texture_buffer_object_rgb32, GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object, GL_ARB_shader_subroutine, GL_ARB_draw_indirect, GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil, GL_ARB_texture_rectangle, GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects, GL_EXT_geometry_shader4, GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_ARB_ES2_compatibility, GL_SGIS_texture_lod, GL_ARB_texture_buffer_range, GL_3DFX_texture_compression_FXT1, GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters, GL_ARB_fragment_shader, GL_ARB_shader_atomic_counters, GL_ARB_shading_language_100, GL_EXT_secondary_color, GL_ARB_draw_buffers, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_EXT_draw_buffers2, GL_EXT_texture_rectangle, GL_ARB_program_interface_query, GL_ARB_blend_func_extended, GL_ARB_arrays_of_arrays, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_EXT_texture_array, GL_ARB_occlusion_query, GL_INTEL_map_texture, GL_ARB_compressed_texture_pixel_storage, GL_ARB_vertex_attrib_64bit, GL_EXT_framebuffer_object, GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_map_buffer_alignment, GL_ARB_provoking_vertex, GL_EXT_shader_integer_mix, GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate, GL_INTEL_performance_query, GL_ARB_color_buffer_float, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_texture_buffer, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, GL_ARB_conservative_depth
00:10:01.813 [rendering.opengl.shader.support]: Shaders are supported.
00:10:02.734 [searchPaths.dumpAll]: Resource paths: 
    Resources
    C:\Oolite/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns
    ../AddOns

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in the config file I have "anti-aliasing"=1;
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Re: Anti Aliasing

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Thanks for posting the details. I think that the problem is that you are missing the OpenGL extension WGL_ARB_pixel_format. Looking at what SDL on Windows does, it seems that it requires this extension in order to enable multisampling AA. If the extension does not exist, then the calls to set AA will fail silently.
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Re: Anti Aliasing

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I added it a while back because it was easy to do, but I've no idea how widely supported it is, which is why it's hidden as a largely undocumented config setting.

Works for me on Linux+Nvidia is all I can really say for it.
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Re: Anti Aliasing

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cim wrote:
... which is why it's hidden as a largely undocumented config setting.
Are there any other hidden Oolite gfx settings? I can never find that list of hidden stuff.
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Re: Anti Aliasing

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That's the one - now bookmarked, thanks.
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another_commander wrote:
Thanks for posting the details. I think that the problem is that you are missing the OpenGL extension WGL_ARB_pixel_format. Looking at what SDL on Windows does, it seems that it requires this extension in order to enable multisampling AA. If the extension does not exist, then the calls to set AA will fail silently.
there's something I can do, then?
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Re: Anti Aliasing

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Do you have the latest drivers for your gfx card? If not, an update might help.
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Re: Anti Aliasing

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Cody wrote:
Do you have the latest drivers for your gfx card? If not, an update might help.
did it already..... :?
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Re: Anti Aliasing

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Oh well... I guess you're stuck with what your gfx card itself can deliver.
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