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Difficulty starting out
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:57 am
by Mariachi
I am getting jacked up like mad almost from the get-go, I mean just about every other system around Lave has fleets of pirates/rebels camping the beacon, and they don’t seem to be mollified by dumped cargo. Some of these guys are killing me from the very limit of the scanner at 1:1 (48km?) Once this even happened at Lave itself with an empty hold, bunch of AI griefers yelling about the bureaucracy or something. This can’t be normal! I haven’t played Oo for a few years but I don’t remember anything like that.
I do have a bunch of OXPs active, but mostly ambience, HUDs, additional ships, later missions. The only Mechanics are Bigships, Torus To Sun Drive, and Variable Masslock (it was impossible to go more than a few km on Torus before running into masslocking traffic.) Nothing that I can see that would infest noob systems like that.
Any ideas what’s going on here?
Re: Difficulty starting out
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:10 pm
by Lone_Wolf
the "additonal ships" might be responsible for this, also lave is not exactly a safe area.
Head for zaonce, there's a reasonable safe milkrun ( furs <> computer trading between low-tech agrarian and high-tech industrial systems) close to zaonce.
Re: Difficulty starting out
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:11 pm
by Disembodied
Mariachi wrote:I am getting jacked up like mad almost from the get-go, I mean just about every other system around Lave has fleets of pirates/rebels camping the beacon, and they don’t seem to be mollified by dumped cargo. Some of these guys are killing me from the very limit of the scanner at 1:1 (48km?) Once this even happened at Lave itself with an empty hold, bunch of AI griefers yelling about the bureaucracy or something. This can’t be normal! I haven’t played Oo for a few years but I don’t remember anything like that.
I do have a bunch of OXPs active, but mostly ambience, HUDs, additional ships, later missions. The only Mechanics are Bigships, Torus To Sun Drive, and Variable Masslock (it was impossible to go more than a few km on Torus before running into masslocking traffic.) Nothing that I can see that would infest noob systems like that.
Any ideas what’s going on here?
Hi Mariachi, welcome to the boards! There aren't really any such things as "noob systems" - as a Dictatorship, Lave, for example, is one of the more dangerous systems in Galaxy 1. However the behaviour you describe doesn't sound normal. Whilst you can be unlucky in a Corporate State or Democracy and encounter a pirate pack, if they demand cargo and you comply, that should work.
The comms messages are most likely from the [wiki]Communications Pack A[/wiki], but it's possible you have an OXP that's adding pirates (I think one of the Eagle ship OXPs used to do this, for example). Can you provide a list?
Edit: ninja'd!
Re: Difficulty starting out
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:24 pm
by Smivs
Hi Mariachi,
Definitely doesn't sound normal. As the others suggest, post a full list of OXPs. Also, you don't say how long you've been playing, but if you've had time to take on any courier contracts you might have picked some dodgy ones - there are a lot of folks out there making sure that certain items are not moved around!
Re: Difficulty starting out
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:37 pm
by Layne
Hurrah, the Mariachi band I ordered is here! Everyone dances!
You might want to get out of the main space-lane if you want to avoid most of the mass locking; jet perpendicular to the line from the Witchspace beacon to the main planet for a bit before orienting on the main beacon (or planet) and heading in. You'll be outside the bulk of the witchpoint-to-station traffic that way.
Welcome to the game and the forum, commander!
Re: Difficulty starting out
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:58 pm
by Norby
Welcome!
Mariachi wrote:Some of these guys are killing me from the very limit of the scanner at 1:1 (48km?)
Scanner range is 25.6km but military laser can hit from 30km. Try ident lock the ship which fire you from long range ("r" key then aim it with the crosshairs) to know which ship OXP create it.
Re: Difficulty starting out
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:55 am
by Diziet Sma
G'day Mariachi, and welcome aboard!
Disembodied wrote:There aren't really any such things as "noob systems" - as a Dictatorship, Lave, for example, is one of the more dangerous systems in Galaxy 1.
This..
For example, see what Disembodied once said about Oolite, quoted in my sig below:
Re: Difficulty starting out
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:32 am
by Mariachi
Thanks for the tips — once I got away from the Old Worlds sector I stopped popping in near campers. Getting out of the main spacelane has helped a lot too.
Now my only question is why does every Coriolis identify as Raceedat Station?
Edit: Oh, and I can’t find the keybindings for iTunes integration anywhere here or on alioth.net. Does it require purchase of primable equipment?
Re: Difficulty starting out
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:07 am
by phkb
Mariachi wrote:Now my only question is why does every Coriolis identify as Raceedat Station?
It's really starting to sound like you have some conflicting OXP's at work here - are you able to post a list of what you have installed? Possibly from the latest.log file?
Re: Difficulty starting out
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:51 am
by Mariachi
Here’s the beginning of it up until docking at “Raceedat.”
(Pay no mind to me slamming into the nav buoy.)
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21:11:41.223 [LogEvents]: Asteroid 7207 spawned at 652 km
21:11:41.223 [LogEvents]: Kiota Solar Station 13514 spawned at 3426 km
21:11:44.922 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen will change from GUI_SCREEN_STATUS to GUI_SCREEN_MANIFEST
21:11:44.990 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen changed from GUI_SCREEN_STATUS to GUI_SCREEN_MANIFEST
21:11:45.963 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen will change from GUI_SCREEN_MANIFEST to GUI_SCREEN_SYSTEM_DATA
21:11:46.066 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen changed from GUI_SCREEN_MANIFEST to GUI_SCREEN_SYSTEM_DATA
21:11:47.310 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen changed from GUI_SCREEN_SYSTEM_DATA to GUI_SCREEN_SHORT_RANGE_CHART
21:11:50.012 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen will change from GUI_SCREEN_SHORT_RANGE_CHART to GUI_SCREEN_SYSTEM_DATA
21:11:50.020 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen changed from GUI_SCREEN_SHORT_RANGE_CHART to GUI_SCREEN_SYSTEM_DATA
21:11:52.192 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen will change from GUI_SCREEN_SYSTEM_DATA to GUI_SCREEN_MARKET
21:11:52.295 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen changed from GUI_SCREEN_SYSTEM_DATA to GUI_SCREEN_MARKET
21:11:58.553 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen changed from GUI_SCREEN_MARKET to GUI_SCREEN_MAIN
21:11:58.573 [bigShips_populator]: 0 big trader(s) added to the Isinor system.
21:11:58.573 [LogEvents]: Player will launch from Raceedat Station 1071 flying Cobra Mark III 27313
21:11:59.245 [LogEvents]: Player compass targeted lost target in mode COMPASS_MODE_BASIC
21:11:59.257 [LogEvents]: Player alert condition changed from 0 to 2
21:11:59.411 [LogEvents]: Adder 16698 spawned at 16 km
21:12:00.538 [LogEvents]: Player compass targeted Raceedat Station 1071 in mode COMPASS_MODE_BASIC
21:12:01.553 [LogEvents]: Player launched from Raceedat Station 1071
21:19:32.177 [LogEvents]: Player VIEW_AFT
21:19:34.938 [LogEvents]: Player targeted Raceedat Station 1071 who has 25000 energy
21:20:16.590 [LogEvents]: Player started 15 seconds standard jump countdown
21:20:18.113 [LogEvents]: Player lost lock on Raceedat Station 1071
21:20:22.871 [LogEvents]: Player VIEW_FORWARD
21:20:31.586 [LogEvents]: Player will enter witchspace due to standard jump
21:20:31.595 [LogEvents]: Player compass targeted in mode COMPASS_MODE_BASIC
21:20:31.596 [LogEvents]: Player exited from the vicinity of [Planet position: (0, 0, 681010) radius: 61910 m]
21:20:32.320 [script.javaScript.exception.unexpectedType]: ***** JavaScript exception (oolite-populator 1.82): TypeError: system.addShips(role, 1, pos, 0) is null
21:20:33.023 [bigShips_populator]: 2 big trader(s) added to the Qutiri system.
21:20:33.024 [LogEvents]: Player will exit witchspace
21:20:33.834 [LogEvents]: Player alert condition changed from 2 to 1
21:20:33.890 [LogEvents]: Raceedat Station 32369 spawned at 613 km
21:20:34.017 [hudselector]: Scanner NonLinear:true UltraZoom:true HUD:hudselector-large.plist Crosshairs: null, scanner settings is not fixed.
21:20:34.077 [LogEvents]: Man O' War 19646 spawned at 117 km
21:20:34.077 [LogEvents]: Cobra Mark III 757 spawned at 95 km
21:20:34.078 [LogEvents]: Chatu 15619 spawned at 75 km
21:20:34.078 [LogEvents]: Python 17548 spawned at 40 km
21:20:34.078 [LogEvents]: Asteroid 27556 spawned at 23 km
21:20:34.078 [LogEvents]: Witchpoint Beacon 17470 spawned at 2 km
21:20:34.078 [LogEvents]: Kiota Habitat Station 15143 spawned at 501 km
21:20:34.078 [LogEvents]: Kiota Solar Station 12765 spawned at 4870 km
21:20:36.154 [LogEvents]: Player exited from witchspace
21:20:36.170 [LogEvents]: Player compass targeted Qutiri undefined in mode COMPASS_MODE_BASIC
21:20:55.231 [LogEvents]: Player targeted Witchpoint Beacon 17470 who has 250 energy
21:21:07.811 [LogEvents]: Player lost lock on Witchpoint Beacon 17470
21:21:27.970 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen will change from GUI_SCREEN_MAIN to GUI_SCREEN_MARKET
21:21:28.022 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen changed from GUI_SCREEN_MAIN to GUI_SCREEN_MARKET
21:21:39.379 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen will change from GUI_SCREEN_MARKET to GUI_SCREEN_MARKETINFO
21:21:39.381 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen changed from GUI_SCREEN_MARKET to GUI_SCREEN_MARKETINFO
21:21:39.879 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen will change from GUI_SCREEN_MARKETINFO to GUI_SCREEN_MARKET
21:21:39.887 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen changed from GUI_SCREEN_MARKETINFO to GUI_SCREEN_MARKET
21:21:52.544 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen will change from GUI_SCREEN_MARKET to GUI_SCREEN_MARKETINFO
21:21:52.546 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen changed from GUI_SCREEN_MARKET to GUI_SCREEN_MARKETINFO
21:21:53.779 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen will change from GUI_SCREEN_MARKETINFO to GUI_SCREEN_SYSTEM_DATA
21:21:53.832 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen changed from GUI_SCREEN_MARKETINFO to GUI_SCREEN_SYSTEM_DATA
21:21:58.179 [LogEvents]: Player entered to the vicinity of [Planet position: (0, 0, 650400) radius: 54200 m]
21:21:58.180 [LogEvents]: Player compass targeted Raceedat Station 32369 in mode COMPASS_MODE_BASIC
21:21:59.194 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen changed from GUI_SCREEN_SYSTEM_DATA to GUI_SCREEN_MAIN
21:21:59.195 [LogEvents]: Player VIEW_FORWARD
21:22:03.232 [LogEvents]: Player alert condition changed from 1 to 2
21:22:12.389 [LogEvents]: Player VIEW_PORT
21:22:14.274 [LogEvents]: Player VIEW_FORWARD
21:22:15.859 [LogEvents]: Player VIEW_CUSTOM
21:22:17.410 [LogEvents]: Player VIEW_CUSTOM
21:22:17.909 [LogEvents]: Player VIEW_CUSTOM
21:22:18.394 [LogEvents]: Player VIEW_CUSTOM
21:22:18.729 [LogEvents]: Player VIEW_CUSTOM
21:22:19.294 [LogEvents]: Player VIEW_CUSTOM
21:22:19.809 [LogEvents]: Player VIEW_CUSTOM
21:22:23.138 [LogEvents]: Player VIEW_CUSTOM
21:22:25.463 [LogEvents]: Player VIEW_FORWARD
21:23:04.828 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen will change from GUI_SCREEN_MAIN to GUI_SCREEN_MARKET
21:23:04.837 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen changed from GUI_SCREEN_MAIN to GUI_SCREEN_MARKET
21:23:22.628 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen changed from GUI_SCREEN_MARKET to GUI_SCREEN_MAIN
21:23:22.629 [LogEvents]: Player VIEW_FORWARD
21:25:59.544 [LogEvents]: Player VIEW_PORT
21:26:02.074 [LogEvents]: Player VIEW_CUSTOM
21:26:03.929 [LogEvents]: Player VIEW_AFT
21:26:05.379 [LogEvents]: Player VIEW_FORWARD
21:26:07.144 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen will change from GUI_SCREEN_MAIN to GUI_SCREEN_SYSTEM_DATA
21:26:07.151 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen changed from GUI_SCREEN_MAIN to GUI_SCREEN_SYSTEM_DATA
21:26:12.821 [LogEvents]: Player gui screen changed from GUI_SCREEN_SYSTEM_DATA to GUI_SCREEN_MAIN
21:26:12.824 [LogEvents]: Player VIEW_FORWARD
21:27:19.204 [LogEvents]: Player entered to the aegis of Raceedat Station 32369
21:28:21.032 [LogEvents]: Player targeted Navigation Buoy 7104 who has 250 energy
21:29:22.541 [LogEvents]: Player taking shield damage from Navigation Buoy 7104 103+128 shield and 256 energy left
21:29:22.541 [LogEvents]: Player collided with Navigation Buoy 7104
21:29:27.911 [LogEvents]: Player lost lock on Navigation Buoy 7104
21:29:27.927 [LogEvents]: Player targeted Raceedat Station 32369 who has 25000 energy
21:29:30.110 [LogEvents]: Player got message from Raceedat Station 32369 : Permission granted. Proceed for docking approach. Slot valid until 2084018:11:34:14
21:29:30.112 [LogEvents]: Player requested docking clearance and DOCKING_CLEARANCE_GRANTED
21:30:23.934 [LogEvents]: Player will dock to Raceedat Station 32369
21:30:24.002 [LogEvents]: Player alert condition changed from 2 to 1
21:30:29.230 [LogEvents]: Player docked to Raceedat Station 32369
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Re: Difficulty starting out
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:23 am
by Wildeblood
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21:11:25.658 [script.javaScript.exception.unexpectedType]: ***** JavaScript exception (oolite-populator 1.82): TypeError: system.addShips(role, 1, pos, 0) is null
Something in one of those OXPs is causing an exception in the system populator. That's not good.
Re: Difficulty starting out
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:38 am
by Norby
Mariachi wrote:why does every Coriolis identify as Raceedat Station?
It is a mission target in Trident Down. No problem at me but you can try remove it to check.
Re: Difficulty starting out
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:50 am
by Mariachi
Is there any way to track that down short of the very tedious work of uninstalling all the OXPs and reinstalling one by one until the error gets thrown again? I zgrepped the OXP directory for “addShips” and “populator” but got zero hits.
Edit: Turns out that’s because zgrep isn’t smart enough to delve into zipped subdirectories.
Re: Difficulty starting out
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:42 am
by Smivs
You will find a large number of 'addShips' in the various OXP scripts so tracking down the culprit will be tedious I'm afraid. Spawning via the populator is a more recent innovation, so newer OXPs (specifially those written for or properly updated for v1.80) will be the place to look. I would expect fewer problems with these though.
As you may be aware the common advice for new players is to run for a while largely without OXPs to learn the basic game 'rules' and methods, then add OXPs in one by one so each can be assessed and learned by the player. This way problems can be identified quickly and easily as it is usually the last one added which is at fault or is causing problems.
Starting with a whole load of expansions will always make bug-tracking difficult, I'm afraid.
Re: Difficulty starting out
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:46 pm
by Rxke
Mariachi wrote:very tedious work of uninstalling all the OXPs and reinstalling one by one until the error gets thrown again?
Hi,
Since I'm back from using Oolite and don't know if you can manually delete/install OXPs outside this (for me newfangled
) automagic OXP installer I'm not sure this works, but:
instead of one by one, divide the list in two, disable the second half, if the problem persists, the problmatic oxp is in the first half, disable half of that first half, if the problem persists... You get the picture.
For 200 OXPs you need 7-ish steps instead of 200.. (worst case)