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Multi-function Display
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:20 pm
by Falcon777
So....I downloaded a hud oxz that said it was a mfd (multi-function display) hud. I then downloaded another oxz listed as being mfd...and I have yet to see them work. Is mfd another way of saying that the oxz can be modified by the player? The two I have are comms log and combat. The combat hud isn't so important to me as I can fight fine without modifying anything, but I would like to be able to scroll back on my comms to see what some of those people out there are saying while I'm still flying around. By the time I dock/hyperspace...some of the things they are saying may be too late for me to take advantage of. This becomes even more...aggravated? if I were to download the broadcast mfd oxp, which I would like to do but don't want to do if I can't get it to work.
Help?
Re: Multi-function Display
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:26 am
by Wildeblood
Falcon777 wrote:So....I downloaded a hud oxz that said it was a mfd (multi-function display) hud. I then downloaded another oxz listed as being mfd...and I have yet to see them work.
Use the colon & semi-colon keys ( : & ; ) to switch on MFDs.
Re: Multi-function Display
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:27 am
by Diziet Sma
Wildeblood wrote:Falcon777 wrote:So....I downloaded a hud oxz that said it was a mfd (multi-function display) hud. I then downloaded another oxz listed as being mfd...and I have yet to see them work.
Use the colon & semi-colon keys ( : & ; ) to switch on
and cycle through installed MFDs.
Added a little extra clarification for you..
Re: Multi-function Display
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:47 am
by spud42
having a little trouble myself . using the coluber ch01 hud. i cant seem to figure out where the MFD is going to show... does each hud put the mfd in a different place? or is there a std positioning template for HUD's so we can set the position of the MFD? i go to the config and get a list of 20 MFD positions or a second pade that goes from 21 to 40.. but when i put a MFD in a position there seems no logic to the numbers... last night i ended up with 2 comms logs showing on the right of the screen but no MFD was pick in the config? then i restarted it and they dissapeared.. so do you have to restart the game every time you move a hud position? is there a logical default layout for MFD i.e. position 1 is top left 2 is next to it 5 is top right corner etc?
or am i doing this totally wrong?
Re: Multi-function Display
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:03 am
by Smivs
MFD positions are specified in the hud.plist (in the HUD OXP's Config folder).
This is an extract from my Widescreen SmartHUD, which has two MFD positions, top left and top right corners.
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multi_function_displays = (
{
width = 198;
height = 132;
x = -300;
y = -72;
y_origin = 1;
},
{
width = 198;
height = 132;
x = 300;
y = -72;
y_origin = 1;
}
The width and height are the dimensions of the MFD 'box', and the position on-screen is set by the x and y co-ordinates. It is these that you will have to change to move the MFD to a different screen position.
Re: Multi-function Display
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:17 am
by spud42
thank you your Pan Dimensional Mega Beingness.....
Re: Multi-function Display
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:54 pm
by Norby
spud42 wrote:get a list of 20 MFD positions or a second page that goes from 21 to 40..
The numbers mean the order of MFDs in the actual hud.plist. I set the max. in the MFD config screen within [wiki]HUDSelector[/wiki] to 40 due to the included Original HUD has 10 MFDs and there is a feature in NumericHUD to show different MFDs in each view so theoretically if this feature will be in Original HUD then you can define 40 MFDs in total which is enough for a while imho.
spud42 wrote:last night i ended up with 2 comms logs showing on the right of the screen but no MFD was pick in the config? then i restarted it and they dissapeared.. so do you have to restart the game every time you move a hud position?
In Oolite 1.80 you must preset your MFDs in Interfaces and save your game to always get your favorite MFDs right after undock, but all MFD changes during flight will be lost at next launch. A new feature in 1.81 allow to save the in-flight changes but if you exit without saving your game then the last saved state of MFDs will return.
Re: Multi-function Display
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:19 pm
by spud42
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//C O M M L O G G U I S E T T I N G
comm_log_gui =
{
width = 160;
height = 80;
x = 242;
y = -48;
y_origin = 0;
row_height = 11;
background_rgba = "0.5 0.5 0.5 0";
};
//M U L T I F U N C T I O N D I S P L A Y S
multi_function_displays = (
{
width = 150;
height = 108;
x = 80;
y = -58;
x_origin = -1;
y_origin = 1;
},
{
width = 150;
height = 108;
x = -80;
y = -58;
x_origin = 1;
y_origin = 1;
},
{
width = 150;
height = 108;
x = 240;
y = -58;
x_origin = -1;
y_origin = 1;
},
{
width = 150;
height = 108;
x = -240;
y = -58;
x_origin = 1;
y_origin = 1;
},
{
width = 150;
height = 108;
x = 80;
y = -176;
x_origin = -1;
y_origin = 1;
},
{
width = 150;
height = 108;
x = -80;
y = -176;
x_origin = 1;
y_origin = 1;
},
{
width = 150;
height = 108;
x = 0;
y = -58;
x_origin = 0;
y_origin = 1;
},
);
ok now im confused even more.... it appears there are 7 MFD positions? and is the comms log hard coded to a certain spot?
Re: Multi-function Display
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:51 pm
by Smivs
No, Comms log can be relocated, again by changing its x/y co-ordinates. Just to be clear, the Comms log is the text you get from other ships, stations etc, and has a dark blue background. It is not an MFD in itself, but I think there is a Comms Log MFD which shows this information persistently.
A quick glance tells me that code does seem to show 7 MFDs, three down each side and one top centre? Can't have too much of a good thing, eh?
Re: Multi-function Display
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:59 pm
by Cody
Smivs wrote:Can't have too much of a good thing, eh?
Hmm, two MFDs are more than enough for me - one for nav and one for the ship's library.
Re: Multi-function Display
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:52 pm
by spud42
Smivs wrote:No, Comms log can be relocated, again by changing its x/y co-ordinates. Just to be clear, the Comms log is the text you get from other ships, stations etc, and has a dark blue background. It is not an MFD in itself, but I think there is a Comms Log MFD which shows this information persistently.
A quick glance tells me that code does seem to show 7 MFDs, three down each side and one top centre? Can't have too much of a good thing, eh?
so how do i specify which of the positions i want a MFD to be displayed?
Re: Multi-function Display
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:13 pm
by Norby
spud42 wrote:how do i specify which of the positions i want a MFD to be displayed?
1. Read about
origins then set the source of alignment.
2. Decide the size of your MFD and set in width and height, 120*90 is enough for me. A whole 4:3 screen is equal with 640*480 regardless of the actual resolution.
3. Shift the center point of MFD using x and y. For example if you selected the bottom left corner by y_origin=-1 and x_origin=-1 then use the half of your width and height values to shift the center up and right to show the full MFD within the screen.
Re: Multi-function Display
Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:27 am
by spud42
Smivs wrote:No, Comms log can be relocated, again by changing its x/y co-ordinates. Just to be clear, the Comms log is the text you get from other ships, stations etc, and has a dark blue background. It is not an MFD in itself, but I think there is a Comms Log MFD which shows this information persistently.
A quick glance tells me that code does seem to show 7 MFDs, three down each side and one top centre? Can't have too much of a good thing, eh?
i dont have a coms log with a dark blue background in this HUD. there seems to be a com log above the right hand instruments.
and no the MFD positions turn out to be 5 across the top and another one on left and right sides in the next row.... and to make things even less intuitive they are numbered as follows
using the HUD and MFD selector from the F4 menu, go to MFD setup, then that shows a list of 20 MFD, 1 to 7 is the first 7 in this list.
Re: Multi-function Display
Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:49 am
by Diziet Sma
spud42 wrote:or am i doing this totally wrong?
I guess that depends on just what you're trying to achieve.. are you wanting to edit the HUD so that it
only has the MFD positions you actually want, or are you simply trying to set up an arrangement that you like, and save it so that you don't need to do it manually each time you launch?
Because throughout all the above, I can't quite figure out just what it is you're trying to do..
Re: Multi-function Display
Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:05 am
by spud42
i guess i wanted to find out if there was a consistent MFD position between HUDS. but it seems that there is not. i would have expected MFD position 2 to be next to position 1 . not the case.
yes i was just trying to set up the hud how i would like it. i guess with the extra info that has been shown me i can now tweak the huds even further in size and position if i wanted. is there a way to change those green squares for the MFD's i mean the transparency and maybe even the colour? and is that in the HUD plists or the MFD plist? or is this set in core?