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Firing all lasers at once

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:08 pm
by mandoman
Is it possible to make it so a player ship can fire all lasers at once, when it is desired?

Re: Firing all lasers at once

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:23 pm
by Thargoid
Nope, you can only fire (manually) in the view that you are in. Lasers can't be triggered by scripting.

Re: Firing all lasers at once

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:18 pm
by Paradox
In other words, no Death Blossom for you Starfighter! };]

Re: Firing all lasers at once

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:21 pm
by aegidian
In the spirit of improving Oolite beyond it's Elite origins, it may well be time for the player-selected weapons and player-selected views to be properly separated, but this would need a fairly major code change.

Re: Firing all lasers at once

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:42 am
by mandoman
I was afraid of that. I have a ship in mind that could possibly take on a whole Thargoid unit at once, but even it would poop out eventually. I don't know anything about the logistics of separating the views from the lasers, but I can sure see the advantage. :twisted:

It was just a thought. :)

Re: Firing all lasers at once

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:30 am
by Diziet Sma
aegidian wrote:
In the spirit of improving Oolite beyond it's Elite origins, it may well be time for the player-selected weapons and player-selected views to be properly separated, but this would need a fairly major code change.
Sounds intriguing.. I vote 'yes'.. 8)

Re: Firing all lasers at once

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:47 pm
by CommRLock78
Interesting idea. Though perhaps I'm missing something- how is one to aim lasers that aren't in the active view?

Re: Firing all lasers at once

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:40 pm
by Thermonuklear
CommRLock78 wrote:
Interesting idea. Though perhaps I'm missing something- how is one to aim lasers that aren't in the active view?
Roll like crazy while you're shooting; Giant buzzsaw of death obliterating everything in its path!

Re: Firing all lasers at once

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:18 pm
by Diziet Sma
Given how fast the lasers overheat, you'd need to up the roll-rate considerably..

Maybe someone could write a 'Deathblossom' OXP! :lol:

Re: Firing all lasers at once

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:20 am
by CommRLock78
Thermonuklear wrote:
CommRLock78 wrote:
Interesting idea. Though perhaps I'm missing something- how is one to aim lasers that aren't in the active view?
Roll like crazy while you're shooting; Giant buzzsaw of death obliterating everything in its path!
I see - I suppose it could work, but as Dizzy says, it might require a tweak of the ship's roll.

Deathblossom <chuckles>

Re: Firing all lasers at once

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:09 am
by Wyvern Mommy
if someone finds a way to do that, it should be called the "overheat laser OXP".
my guess is that's all it'll do, with minimal effect on the enemies, if any. it would be lucky to hit any target at all before the lasers overheat, even if the targets are -all- in eminent collision distance. and even military lasers usually need more than one hit to destroy a target.

what -might- work is to hand over attitude control to the targeting computer, which would then turn the ship to the nearest target and shoot at it till destruction or laser overheat. in the latter case, cycle to the next laser and fire at the nearest target till overheat and so on.

Re: Firing all lasers at once

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:45 am
by Thargoid
I can confirm that - I've tried something similar before as an experiment using spawned entities with lasers and also "missile-like" projectile weapons. Unless the thing you're trying to hit is basically parked on your hull then the chances of actually hitting anything are minimal.

There is already I think an OXP which aims the ship at the current locked-on target? But it seems to me like the whole idea would rather take away one of the major points of playing the game. Combine this with some of the auto-trading OXPs and you may as well just let the computer play the whole game whilst you go off and do something else.

Re: Firing all lasers at once

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:04 pm
by cim
Thargoid wrote:
I can confirm that - I've tried something similar before as an experiment using spawned entities with lasers and also "missile-like" projectile weapons. Unless the thing you're trying to hit is basically parked on your hull then the chances of actually hitting anything are minimal.
Well, it would be pretty devastating if you were inside the target.