Oolite Bulletins

I haven't been around for a while, but I figured I would install 1.76. However it seems like I am completely failing at doing that. I downloaded oolite-1.76.linux-x86.tgz and extracted oolite-1.76.linux-x86.run. I put that in my home directory. Then I opened a terminal window and typed sudo oolite-1.76.linux-x86.run and it replied
sudo: oolite-1.76.linux-x86.run: command not found

So I am perplexed as to what to do next. Any suggestions?

Chrisfs wrote:

I opened a terminal window and typed sudo oolite-1.76.linux-x86.run and it replied
sudo: oolite-1.76.linux-x86.run: command not found

I get the same error doing the same thing. But that's because it's not
[color=#0000FF] sudo oolite-1.76.linux-x86.run[/color]
it's
[size=150] [color=#008000] [b]sh[/b] oolite-1.76.linux-x86.run[/color][/size]

Edit: this works too:
[size=150] sudo [b]./[/b]oolite-1.76.linux-x86.run[/size]

Just tried it, it works.

My Ubuntu 10.04 now has "Oolite v1.76 - Dec 15 2011" installed.

Same here.. though I just downloaded it from the main site (Berlin something or other), and it worked fine.

Chrisfs wrote:

Then I opened a terminal window and typed sudo oolite-1.76.linux-x86.run and it replied
sudo: oolite-1.76.linux-x86.run: command not found

So I am perplexed as to what to do next. Any suggestions?

Or, alternatively, for a system-wide install:
chmod +x ./oolite-1.76.linux-x86.run
sudo ./oolite-1.76.linux-x86.run


The "./" is important because, by default in Unix, the current directory is not in the search path, unlike DOS/Windows where it is.

Micha wrote:

by default in Unix, the current directory is not in the search path

Good heavens, I never knew that. Tests for myself ... indeed: sh works without the ./ but sudo does not.

I've made install packages for 32- and 64-bit Debian lenny and squeeze, and Ubuntu lucid and maverick, although they are not linked on the pages yet.
To test, go to http://debs.oolite.org/AptSources.html, and replace the 'test' with 'release' in the deb sources for your distro.

Feedback welcome.

PS. You can't use the Software Centre in Ubuntu because newer versions of it refuse to install unsigned packages. You have to use Synaptic, aptitude, or similar tools.

Edit: the problem below was a lack of an icon caused by the need to remove "Hidden=true" from a .desktop file, in turn caused by telling the 'Main Menu' program to delete the Oolite icon, which does not really delete it but merely make it 'Hidden' in a bad magical way.

In Ubuntu 10.04
- clean reboot
- ensured no Oolite is installed
- checked there is a repository "http://debs.oolite.org /lucid gnustep release"
- at the command prompt entered "dpkg --listfiles oolite" and got told "Packages does not contain any files"
- at the command prompt entered "sudo apt-get install oolite", got the verification and error and responded "y" to "Install these packages without verification"
- at the command prompt entered "dpkg --listfiles oolite" and can see stuff in /usr/share and /usr/lib and /usr/games amongst others
- definitely no Oolite icon in the Games menu (or anywhere else)
- entering "oolite" at the command line does indeed run Oolite.

SandJ wrote:

- definitely no Oolite icon in the Games menu (or anywhere else)

Ok, finally managed to dust off my Lucid VM and test it, and I cannot repro this bug; game icon appears as it should (under "Games") after installation, and disappears, as it should, upon deinstallation.

You -are- running the standard Gnome desktop?
You have not fiddled with the menu (ie, other newly-installed apps appear as they should)?

Micha wrote:

SandJ wrote:

- definitely no Oolite icon in the Games menu (or anywhere else)

Ok, finally managed to dust off my Lucid VM and test it, and I cannot repro this bug; game icon appears as it should (under "Games") after installation, and disappears, as it should, upon deinstallation.

You -are- running the standard Gnome desktop?
You have not fiddled with the menu (ie, other newly-installed apps appear as they should)?

GNOME: 2.30.2 (Ubuntu 2010-06-25). It is the Ubuntu Netbook Edition which does have a different appearance to the normal desktop.

If I do 'sudo apt-get install 3dchess' I have a new icon under 'Games'. 'sudo apt-get remove 3dchess' makes it disappear.

'sudo apt-get install oolite' installs oolite v1.76 but does not create an icon under 'Games'.

If I remove debs.oolite.org from the software sources, then oolite v1.65-2 is installed ... also without an icon.

OK, it is probably something on my PC that is playing up.

SandJ wrote:

It is the Ubuntu Netbook Edition which does have a different appearance to the normal desktop.

Aha!
Presumably the Ubuntu Netbook Edition (which, iirc, uses a precursor of Unity) does not entirely adhere to the Linux Desktop Standard. I shall investigate.

Micha wrote:

SandJ wrote:

It is the Ubuntu Netbook Edition which does have a different appearance to the normal desktop.

Aha!
Presumably the Ubuntu Netbook Edition (which, iirc, uses a precursor of Unity) does not entirely adhere to the Linux Desktop Standard. I shall investigate.

Did you investigate? A netbook is still on my wish list and I intend to put Linux/Ubuntu on it at the earliest...

DaddyHoggy wrote:

Did you investigate? A netbook is still on my wish list and I intend to put Linux/Ubuntu on it at the earliest...

I did a basic comparison of the 3dchess and oolite packages, but as far as I can work out they pretty much do the same thing for menus - just a case of installing certain files. Unless the 3dchess package does something specific in its post-install script to support the Ubuntu netbook edition but I didn't get that deep into it.

I have not had time to install a netbook-edition of Ubuntu. In either case I'm guessing you'll install the latest version of Ubuntu when you do, which has Unity and is something else again.

Micha wrote:

DaddyHoggy wrote:

Did you investigate? A netbook is still on my wish list and I intend to put Linux/Ubuntu on it at the earliest...

I did a basic comparison of the 3dchess and oolite packages, but as far as I can work out they pretty much do the same thing for menus - just a case of installing certain files. Unless the 3dchess package does something specific in its post-install script to support the Ubuntu netbook edition but I didn't get that deep into it.

I have not had time to install a netbook-edition of Ubuntu. In either case I'm guessing you'll install the latest version of Ubuntu when you do, which has Unity and is something else again.

I was hoping to avoid a unity based interface - I like gnome - I was planning on 10.04 if I could still get it by the time funds and the netbook I want to buy being in stock are temporally collocated...

DaddyHoggy wrote:

I was hoping to avoid a unity based interface - I like gnome - I was planning on 10.04 if I could still get it by the time funds and the netbook I want to buy being in stock are temporally collocated...

If you stick with the standard Gnome desktop and not the Ubuntu-Netbook variant or Unity or any similar silliness it -should- "just work".