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Codepage quirks on Wiki (ASC page) [SOLVED]

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:16 pm
by sdrubble
Hi all...

[maybe this should be more specifically directed to Eric Walch and JazHaz, who've done the latest editions on the page...]

On http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Advanc ... onal_Buoys, I've noticed two oddities related to code pages.

1. the symbol for "Galactic Navy SECOM Station" will not display correctly - I've rotated the Firefox View / Character Encoding options thru a number of entries, Unicode / UTF-8 included, and none will let it display anything meaningful. And, whenever anyone tries to fix this, will he please add the missing "C" to "SecCom Station" also. :mrgreen:

2. While testing encoding alternatives for #1, I noticed that the "Free Trade Zone" entry shows some strange characters under ISO-8859-1 , ISO-8859-15 and Windows-1252 . Unicode / UTF-8 seems to be the only CP which lets it display correctly.

All of the other entries seem to display correctly, regardless of CP.

Cheers :D

Re: Codepage quirks on Wiki (Advanced Space Compass)

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:26 pm
by cim
sdrubble wrote:
1. the symbol for "Galactic Navy SECOM Station" will not display correctly - I've rotated the Firefox View / Character Encoding options thru a number of entries, Unicode / UTF-8 included, and none will let it display anything meaningful.
UTF-8 is the correct code page, so nothing else will work. If UTF-8 isn't working either, that suggests that none of the fonts installed on your computer contain the correct Unicode star character. Which OS are you using?
sdrubble wrote:
2. While testing encoding alternatives for #1, I noticed that the "Free Trade Zone" entry shows some strange characters under ISO-8859-1 , ISO-8859-15 and Windows-1252 . Unicode / UTF-8 seems to be the only CP which lets it display correctly.
The dashes for that entry are Unicode encoded em-dashes (unlike the 'minus' symbols used for every other entry). So if viewed in the wrong CP, they get interpreted wrongly. UTF-8 should auto-detect on any properly working browser, so that isn't a problem.

Re: Codepage quirks on Wiki (Advanced Space Compass)

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:28 pm
by Smivs
I've added 'X' to the list for Xeptatl Society stations (Xeptatl's Sword OXP) and corrected SECOM to SecCom for Galactic Navy. Hope that's OK.

Re: Codepage quirks on Wiki (Advanced Space Compass)

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:30 pm
by sdrubble
cim wrote:
sdrubble wrote:
1. the symbol for "Galactic Navy SECOM Station" will not display correctly - I've rotated the Firefox View / Character Encoding options thru a number of entries, Unicode / UTF-8 included, and none will let it display anything meaningful.
UTF-8 is the correct code page, so nothing else will work. If UTF-8 isn't working either, that suggests that none of the fonts installed on your computer contain the correct Unicode star character. Which OS are you using?
Thx for the help cim ! :D

I"m using a fully updated Win XP SP3... I've googled a bit and couldn't find the proper way to list the FULL NAMES of my fonts (other than simply DISPLAYing them under the Control Panel :evil: ). Not sure if it will help, but here's a list of my installed font filenames:

Code: Select all

 Directory of C:\WINDOWS\Fonts

1998-11-12  09:18           151,000 ANTQUAB.TTF
1998-11-12  09:18           150,416 ANTQUABI.TTF
1998-11-12  09:18           149,092 ANTQUAI.TTF
2007-01-01  20:28           367,112 arial.ttf
2007-01-01  20:28           352,224 arialbd.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           226,748 arialbi.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           207,808 ariali.ttf
1998-11-12  17:39           134,200 ARIALN.TTF
1998-11-12  17:39           139,128 ARIALNB.TTF
1998-11-12  17:39           138,568 ARIALNBI.TTF
1998-11-12  17:39           141,408 ARIALNI.TTF
2007-01-01  20:28           118,832 ariblk.ttf
1998-11-12  09:18           155,528 BKANT.TTF
1998-11-04  18:30           160,940 BOOKOS.TTF
1998-11-04  18:30           154,576 BOOKOSB.TTF
1998-11-04  18:30           162,460 BOOKOSBI.TTF
1999-08-18  14:53           161,020 BOOKOSI.TTF
2000-11-17  03:33            55,540 BSSYM7.TTF
2007-01-01  20:41           127,596 comic.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           111,476 comicbd.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           303,296 cour.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           312,920 courbd.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           236,148 courbi.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           245,032 couri.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00            79,744 estre.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           135,984 framd.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           152,844 framdit.ttf
1998-11-10  15:52           196,616 GARA.TTF
1998-11-10  15:52           198,604 GARABD.TTF
1998-11-10  15:52           188,988 GARAIT.TTF
2001-08-23  10:00           214,936 gautami.ttf
2007-01-01  20:43           155,068 georgia.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           141,032 georgiab.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           157,388 georgiai.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           159,736 georgiaz.ttf
2006-04-18  16:39            26,040 GlobalMonospace.CompositeFont
2006-06-29  15:53            26,489 GlobalSansSerif.CompositeFont
2006-04-18  16:39            29,779 GlobalSerif.CompositeFont
2006-06-29  15:58            30,808 GlobalUserInterface.CompositeFont
1998-11-12  17:39           137,568 GOTHIC.TTF
1998-11-12  17:39           129,676 GOTHICB.TTF
1998-11-12  17:39           139,084 GOTHICBI.TTF
1998-11-12  17:39           148,520 GOTHICI.TTF
2007-01-01  20:44           137,448 impact.ttf
2007-01-01  20:54           121,452 kartika.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00            73,292 latha.ttf
2007-06-26  07:42            58,740 lsans.ttf
2007-06-26  07:42            54,320 lsansd.ttf
2007-06-26  07:42            60,664 lsansdi.ttf
2007-06-26  07:42            59,636 lsansi.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           115,068 lucon.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           323,980 l_10646.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           143,864 mangal.ttf
2007-01-01  20:55           461,672 micross.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00             8,704 modern.fon
1998-11-10  15:52           157,360 MTCORSVA.TTF
2001-08-23  10:00            40,500 mvboli.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           489,884 pala.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           434,004 palab.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           344,288 palabi.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           430,800 palai.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00            57,348 raavi.ttf
1999-05-06  12:59           220,172 REFSAN.TTF
1998-09-03  16:14            53,288 REFSPCL.TTF
2001-08-23  10:00            13,312 roman.fon
2001-08-23  10:00            12,288 script.fon
2001-08-23  10:00           234,280 shruti.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           221,676 sylfaen.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00            69,464 symbol.ttf
2007-01-01  20:56           383,804 tahoma.ttf
2007-01-01  20:56           355,680 tahomabd.ttf
2007-01-01  20:56           409,280 times.ttf
2007-01-01  20:57           398,372 timesbd.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           239,692 timesbi.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           248,368 timesi.ttf
2007-01-01  20:57           134,108 trebuc.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           123,096 trebucbd.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           131,188 trebucbi.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           139,288 trebucit.ttf
2007-01-01  20:54           148,624 tunga.ttf
2007-01-01  20:57           171,792 verdana.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           137,616 verdanab.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           155,076 verdanai.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           154,800 verdanaz.ttf
2007-01-01  20:54           252,820 vrinda.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00           118,752 webdings.ttf
2001-08-23  10:00            81,000 wingding.ttf
2002-01-22  17:22            65,788 WINGDNG2.TTF
2002-01-22  17:22            35,328 WINGDNG3.TTF
2001-08-23  10:00            18,880 wst_czec.fon
2001-08-23  10:00            18,880 wst_engl.fon
2001-08-23  10:00            18,880 wst_fren.fon
2001-08-23  10:00            18,880 wst_germ.fon
2001-08-23  10:00            18,880 wst_ital.fon
2001-08-23  10:00            18,880 wst_span.fon
2001-08-23  10:00            18,880 wst_swed.fon
              96 File(s)     15,326,108 bytes
cim wrote:
sdrubble wrote:
2. While testing encoding alternatives for #1, I noticed that the "Free Trade Zone" entry shows some strange characters under ISO-8859-1 , ISO-8859-15 and Windows-1252 . Unicode / UTF-8 seems to be the only CP which lets it display correctly.
The dashes for that entry are Unicode encoded em-dashes (unlike the 'minus' symbols used for every other entry). So if viewed in the wrong CP, they get interpreted wrongly. UTF-8 should auto-detect on any properly working browser, so that isn't a problem.
Fair with me :mrgreen: - thx for clarifying. :D

Cheers :wink:

Re: Codepage quirks on Wiki (Advanced Space Compass)

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:50 pm
by cim
sdrubble wrote:
I"m using a fully updated Win XP SP3... I've googled a bit and couldn't find the proper way to list the FULL NAMES of my fonts (other than simply DISPLAYing them under the Control Panel :evil: ).
Opening the fonts folder in control panel is about it.
sdrubble wrote:
Not sure if it will help, but here's a list of my installed font filenames:
That seems pretty short, and I can't see the common Unicode windows fonts. Try installing the fonts from
http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/freefont/freefon ... 919.tar.gz which should give you decent Unicode coverage.

Re: Codepage quirks on Wiki (Advanced Space Compass)

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:40 pm
by JazHaz
sdrubble wrote:
sdrubble wrote:
1. the symbol for "Galactic Navy SECOM Station" will not display correctly - I've rotated the Firefox View / Character Encoding options thru a number of entries, Unicode / UTF-8 included, and none will let it display anything meaningful. And, whenever anyone tries to fix this, will he please add the missing "C" to "SecCom Station" also. :mrgreen:
I"m using a fully updated Win XP SP3.
The symbol is a five-pointed star - "★". It displays fine on my Windows XP SP3 laptop, under Chrome and Firefox.


EDIT: added the star ★ character

Re: Codepage quirks on Wiki (Advanced Space Compass)

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:45 pm
by Eric Walch
cim wrote:
sdrubble wrote:
Not sure if it will help, but here's a list of my installed font filenames:
I would expect that any current browser supports unicode. When the font is not given correct It can be a missing font containing the character. But the star should be pretty common. I see 48 fonts on my computer that contain the star symbol "★".

I am not an unicode expert, and most fonts only contain some of the unicode symbols. However, on my computer there is one called "Arial Unicode Regular" that contains quite a bunch of them, so if the chosen display font hasn't the character, it should switch to this one. At least I hope it works that way.

Re: Codepage quirks on Wiki (Advanced Space Compass)

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:58 pm
by sdrubble
Hi everybody - thx for the massive and supersonic help !!! :shock: :D

This suggestion SOLVED my issue:
cim wrote:
I can't see the common Unicode windows fonts. Try installing the fonts from http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/freefont/freefon ... 919.tar.gz which should give you decent Unicode coverage.
The 5-point star is now showing correctly, both in the Wiki and in the forum (I had reported it on another thread and already added a 'SOLVED' flag over there).

It seems (can't remember for sure) that when I installed Windows on my netbook - which a meager 4Gb SSD unit for C: - I made a lot of trimmings to keep install size short, and a bunch of fonts might have been left out (and hadn't been missed for about 3 years... :lol: )

Thx a lot everybody. I'm editing the thread title to add 'SOLVED'.

Cheers :mrgreen:

Re: Codepage quirks on Wiki (Advanced Space Compass)

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:02 pm
by sdrubble
Smivs wrote:
I've added 'X' to the list for Xeptatl Society stations (Xeptatl's Sword OXP) and corrected SECOM to SecCom for Galactic Navy. Hope that's OK.
No, it's NOT OK... you skipped the last 'T' on Xeptatl. :twisted:

Cheers :mrgreen:

Re: Codepage quirks on Wiki (Advanced Space Compass)

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:15 pm
by Smivs
sdrubble wrote:
Smivs wrote:
I've added 'X' to the list for Xeptatl Society stations (Xeptatl's Sword OXP) and corrected SECOM to SecCom for Galactic Navy. Hope that's OK.
No, it's NOT OK... you skipped the last 'T' on Xeptatl. :twisted:

Cheers :mrgreen:
:oops: fixed now
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