Oolite Bulletins

In test flying the DSE ship series Zieman and I just created, I found that maneuverability has pros and cons on both sides of the spectrum. Low maneuv is useful, and high manev is useful.

So...what is YOUR take on it? Which do you prefer?

Keyboard player. I find myself frequently taking the game down to half-speed in order to have some meaningful combat.

High with the sensitivity mapped to a button on the joystick...

DaddyHoggy wrote:

High with the sensitivity mapped to a button on the joystick...

+1

I tend towards being a long range sniper, so for me mouse is the only way to go. Combines the best of both worlds.

I play with the keyboard on a relatively small laptop, so sniping is not an option for me. I'm flying a Cobra mk.3 and it has all the manouverability that I need. I'd actually prefer a more cumbersome ship to do some sniping and have more meaningful dogfights.

Well, not sure what the standards are, but since we usually base most things on the default Cobra MKII, I guess that'd be medium? And since I usually leave the precision joystick mode on, it would be the slow side of medium.

If it turns any faster than that, it just doesn't feel like the ship is actually big. I mean, a Cobra MK III (for example) is supposed to be about as big as a good-sized house or so. That much metal shouldn't be able to flip around as fast as a skateboard or something. LOL I like it to feel like it's believably some tons of metal with big roaring engines on the back of it.

As had been said hundreds of times dimensions and OOphysics comparison's to RL(tm) are utterly pointless - the Cobra Mk III can behave however it wants as long as it feels right inside the game and in comparison to everything else.

Ganelon wrote:

Well, not sure what the standards are, but since we usually base most things on the default Cobra MKII, I guess that'd be medium? And since I usually leave the precision joystick mode on, it would be the slow side of medium.

If it turns any faster than that, it just doesn't feel like the ship is actually big. I mean, a Cobra MK III (for example) is supposed to be about as big as a good-sized house or so. That much metal shouldn't be able to flip around as fast as a skateboard or something. LOL I like it to feel like it's believably some tons of metal with big roaring engines on the back of it.

Tsk Tsk

I stand corrected on the point of my typo. I meant MKIII.

DaddyHoggy wrote:

As had been said hundreds of times dimensions and OOphysics comparison's to RL(tm) are utterly pointless - the Cobra Mk III can behave however it wants as long as it feels right inside the game and in comparison to everything else.

That's exactly what I'm talking about.

For me, personally, a ship that turns faster feels smaller. I think of the Cobra MKIII as being a certain size, and with a joystick and precision mode on (which is slower than keyboard controls) that's right about where it feels right for me. There could be ten pages of equations showing that with the hypothetical gear onboard it could turn maybe four times quicker, and for me it still wouldn't feel right if it did.

Probably a lot of such personal preference is what one is most accustomed to, though.

IMO manoueverability should be an aspect of the ship, not the player. regardless if the majority of people like "high manoueverability", if your ship is a big heavy gunship it should fly accordingly, etc.

I rather wish the keyboard had a precision aiming mode like the mouse and joystick has.
The Adder is dang near useless in a dogfight unless the enemy is either huge or in-my-face...otherwise I can't hit anything.

Killer Wolf wrote:

IMO manoueverability should be an aspect of the ship, not the player. regardless if the majority of people like "high manoueverability", if your ship is a big heavy gunship it should fly accordingly, etc.

What he said....

I remember a game way back on the C64 called Steel Thunder. It was a pretty sophisticated tank simulator game for its time. It had a 3-step toggle for the aiming sensitivity and was a great help when firing the main gun of a MBT. The default setting did not modify the sensitivity of the controls, the middle setting approximately halved the turning speed and the final step was maybe half of the middle setting. It was invaluable whether one was blitzkriegin' through an enemy camp or sniping enemy tanks from many kilometers away.

Surely such a device could be implemented into Oolite?

Killer Wolf wrote:

IMO manoueverability should be an aspect of the ship, not the player. regardless if the majority of people like "high manoueverability", if your ship is a big heavy gunship it should fly accordingly, etc.

Here! Here!

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