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Missing Subents
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:45 pm
by Killer Wolf
Okay, what's the obvious mistake here :
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// *************************************************
// * N P C P H A N T O M *
// *************************************************
{
"hathor" =
{
ai_type = "stationAI.plist";
beacon = "H";
auto_ai = yes;
aft_eject_position = "0.0 13.0 0.0";
energy_recharge_rate = 4;
max_cargo = 2;
has_ecm = "true";
has_escape_pod = "true";
heat_insulation = 1.0;
has_scoop = "true";
name = "Hathor";
model = "2xhath.dat";
roles = "station hathtest";
thrust = 50;
smooth = "false";
subentities = {
"hathor_dock" = {
type = "standard";
// position = (-100.48, -138.99, -188.07);
is_dock = true;};
"hathor_power" = {
type = "standard";};
};
};
"hathor_dock" =
{
ai_type = "nullAI.plist";
name = "Hathor Dock";
model = "2xhathdock.dat";
// is_dock = true;
roles = "hath_dock";
};
"hathor_power" =
{
ai_type = "nullAI.plist";
name = "Hathor";
model = "2xhathpower.dat";
roles = "hath_power";
};
}
i banged that together from a current plist and cut/pasted Eric's subent info in Simon's Redux thread. i'm getting no syntax/log errors, but the station' genning up w/out the two subents. i've got a script to randomly place 6 of the dock subents and that works fine so it doesn't appear the models are buggered.
TIA.
Re: Missing Subents
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:13 pm
by Thargoid
The syntax is wrong, and the list of subentites should be a comma-separated array rather than in curly brackets and separated by semi-colons.
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subentities = {
"hathor_dock" = {
type = "standard";
// position = (-100.48, -138.99, -188.07);
is_dock = true;};
"hathor_power" = {
type = "standard";};
};
with
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subentities =
(
{
subentity_key = "hathor_dock";
type = "standard";
// position = (-100.48, -138.99, -188.07);
is_dock = true;
},
{
subentity_key = "hathor_power";
type = "standard";
}
);
Each separate sub-entity is between curly brackets and identified by the subentity_key line, and overall the sub-entities are an array (surrounded by round brackets and comma separated with no trailing comma or semi-colon).
Hope that's clearer? If you want a reference look in the 1.75.2 or trunk shipdata.plist entry for the coriolis station.[/color]
Re: Missing Subents
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:15 pm
by Killer Wolf
edit, you ninja'd me w/ a retype!
that worked, many thanks for the fast reply bud
Re: Missing Subents
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:16 pm
by Thargoid
Sorry, revised my earlier post, as noticed the individual sub-entity entries are wrong in the array too. See my other post for the corrected version.
Re: Missing Subents
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:26 pm
by Commander McLane
If I understand correctly, subentities is an array, not a dictionary.
Therefore it doesn't consist of entries with a name. Instead, the shipdata.plist key of the subentity has to be assigned to the
subentity_key key
inside the definition.
I think you also need to put everything with an underscore in it into quotation marks, and the elements of the array are separated by commas, not semicolons.
Not this:
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subentities = {
"hathor_dock" = {
type = "standard";
// position = (-100.48, -138.99, -188.07);
is_dock = true;};
"hathor_power" = {
type = "standard";};
};
but this:
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subentities = (
{
"subentity_key" = "hathor_dock";
type = "standard";
// position = (-100.48, -138.99, -188.07);
"is_dock" = true;
},
{
"subentity_key" = "hathor_power";
type = "standard";
}
);
EDIT: too slow. duh!
Re: Missing Subents
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:14 am
by Killer Wolf
cheers all.
related to my other post about docking downa long tunnel, i was trying this to see where i'd get and how i could sort any probs. and i've found an odd one.
i genned up a station, using Thargoid's code, was fine. flew at the tunnel, died.
when i turned on bounding boxes, i had a red box indicating the dock : it's the exact dimensions of the dock.dat, but it's affixed to the underside of the actual tunnel model, therefore, from the front it looks like this :
<cac ascii art>
_
|_| <---- the actual dock model entrance
_
|_| <---- the bounding box
</cac ascii art>
i flew at the bounding box, is through the wall of the station just below the tunnel mouth, and docked.
any thoughts? i've no "position" tags in the code.
TIA
Re: Missing Subents
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:52 am
by Commander McLane
Killer Wolf wrote:i've no "position" tags in the code.
This may already be the answer. No
position tag equals
position = 0, 0, 0
Re: Missing Subents
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:55 am
by Killer Wolf
ta for that, Cmdr McLane. i'll have a bit more play tonight if i have time.
i really REALLY like a better dock definition area for the game/code to make stuff easier, ie just define a dock area rather than having to have a subent, especially a sub ent that has to be made in one position and moved about to get it where you want.
Re: Missing Subents
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:12 am
by Commander McLane
Killer Wolf wrote:especially a sub ent that has to be made in one position and moved about to get it where you want.
But isn't that the basic premise for
every subentity? You create it as an independent entity and then move and rotate it to the correct position and orientation with regards to the main entity?
Re: Missing Subents
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:04 am
by Killer Wolf
not for me, i model the ship as it should be and cut off the subents in place. building something elsewhere and having to put code in to move it about is ludicrous, to my mind, unless you're talking about multiple copies of one item like externally mounted missiles.
Re: Missing Subents
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:24 am
by Eric Walch
Killer Wolf wrote:i really REALLY like a better dock definition area for the game/code to make stuff easier, ie just define a dock area rather than having to have a subent, especially a sub ent that has to be made in one position and moved about to get it where you want.
The early Oolite versions did it that way, without a dock as explicit subentity. The old way of defining a
port_dimensions and
port_radius is still supported in current oolite, albeit not as flexible as with a real subentity. e.g. you only can create docks at the positive z side of the station with it. And I doubt if this old method will be supported in future Oolite 2.0
Re: Missing Subents
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:37 pm
by Thargoid
That would be a shame, as you can do some tricks with it such as the dock on the Lave Academy station.
As for the other comment, doing it the current way also allows the same sub-entity to be used in multiple places (and multiple times) on a model. For example all 4 of the missiles on the external missile Cobra that Griff and I did were the same sub-ent, just repeated in different positions. Indeed the whole thing would be impossible to do if the sub-ents were made as off-centred models.
Re: Missing Subents
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:27 pm
by Killer Wolf
well that's exactly what i said.
off-centred and moved subents each have their place, but IMO moved subents for a stationary construction is silly.