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Subduing the burberry which make for a real dark station...

cbr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:55 am

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Subduing the burberry which make for a real dark station...

No strong feelings about any of this. The invisibility of the real dark station seems to chime with the original team's wishes for a navy which was invisible....

But what do you think, cbr? You've been busy experimenting and must have one or two preferences yourself...

The one thing I do have strong feelings about is that I really like the miniaturised logos with the spotlights that you pointed out last week:





Are the spotlights yours? Or are they part of the Komodo model?

Understated, totally different to anything anywhere else in Oolite, and just (for me) a very nice touch. And makes adding the other logos seem a bit slapdash to me...

Bearing in mind that the HIMSN stuff comes up on the (talking?) scanner as HIMSN, those mini-logos are probably enough...

But what do you think?

Understated is good - less is more!

More_Subtle logos




Adhering to function and purpose ( non-approachable military bases , I think the dark blue is more fitting.
The burberry normalmap creates those nice bumps/ridges.
But they will be dark stations when all textures are done...



The small logos and lights on the komodo were placed by the master shipbuilder, I did a small touch up on the used logo.

Another issue.
Reality: Telescope & Galactic Almanac both detect stuff from massive distances within the system.
Handwavium: Stealth/masking capabilities built into the stations and ships to make them indetectable from a distance.


LittleBear has presumably built invisibility into his Galactic Almanac (code added to our .oxp to keep stuff invisible).
I presume that Telescope has the same facility.
I'm ignoring Long Range Scanner (as a cheat useful for programmers/testers).


So. What should the situation be with the HIMSN stations?

And I presume that detectability at a distance for Telescope Extender is a function of size/mass. But if there were such a thing as a "stealth" capability and if it were built into the HIMSN carriers, they too could avoid detection to an extent.


Gentlemen. What is your feeling about this?

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:02 am

What should the situation be with the HIMSN stations?

They should be difficult to find, and dangerous to approach!

How many logo variants are in use? I see the sun logo, and the planet logo. Is the crown logo in use?

Cody wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:43 am

How many logo variants are in use? I see the sun logo, and the planet logo. Is the crown logo in use?

Gimi wrote this:

Gimi wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:19 am

HIMSN is progressing well (a lot faster than I thought) so I need to land the logo debate. We pretty much have a 50/50 split on the black or blue background. I prefer black and the flaring sun logo, but from what I understand most here prefer the ringed planet.

Proposal
HIMSN Intelligence services will have a white "Omega" on a black background.

HIMSN Regular Navy will have a white ringed planet on a blue background.

HIMSN Stations will have a white flaring sun on a blue background.


Please give an honest opinion. The only decision that has been made is the 8-pointed star as seen above.

Edit: I'm also contemplating changing to a darker shade of blue for the background.

The crown seems to have been dropped. By Feb 2014 nobody was talking about it any more.

Thanks Cholly - there must've been some discussion in IRC (or PMs) about why it was dropped.

Visibility.

The HIMSN base shows up on my ASC, the Galactic Almanac interface at Xeer Orbital Station, and on Telescope.

1) It seems that we need to remove the beacon from the HIMSN bases. Or disable it. Or restrict its radius to, say, one hundred Cavezzi.

2) We need to include Telescope invisibility code as outlined here by cag.

I'd like to do it. I'm registered on GitHub, but need some pointers as to how to! This business of pull requests/branches/tags/merging etc is rather beyond me... I don't even understand the jargon...

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:13 pm

This business of pull requests/branches/tags/merging etc is rather beyond me... I don't even understand the jargon...

"Speak in secret alphabets, I light another cigarette, learn to forget!"

Yes, remove (or restrict) their beacons definitely.

I presume that to download the newest version from GitHub that I click on the green Code button on the upper right and select the Download ZIP option.

And that this version has been Tsoj'ed but not yet cbr'ed!

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:44 pm

I presume that to download the newest version from GitHub that I click on the green Code button on the upper right and select the Download ZIP option.

Or click the link, click on Assets, then download the himsn.oxp.zip (which is tsoj'ed).

Cody wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 2:28 pm

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:44 pm

I presume that to download the newest version from GitHub that I click on the green Code button on the upper right and select the Download ZIP option.

Or click the link, click on Assets, then download the himsn.oxp.zip (which is tsoj'ed).

Much better... thank you, Cody!

tsoj wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:33 pm

Just open a new issue and paste the code there that you want to change, and I will then add these changes to the repository. (To open a new issue, go to the HIMSN GitHub site, click on the tab "Issues", and click on the button "New issue".)

Done. Seems to work on my AppleMac, nobbling the Scanner, Telescope (invisible outside scanner range) & Galactic Almanac. Still visible for Okti's Long Range Scanner (needed for testing and labelled as a cheat for playing).

New issue: Stranger's World.

Station does not appear where it is supposed to (Xeer's sun), but rather in the middle of nowhere.