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Re: The Alphabetical Ship List
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:03 am
by maik
Doing 'J' now
Re: The Alphabetical Ship List
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:39 pm
by Fatleaf
maik wrote:Correct, dimensions is not needed anymore. It will only be displayed, if width, height, and length are not given, but then volume cannot be calculated.
I was under the impression that they were when I was informed to copy the
Adder list and that has the dimensions entry included! But I will leave it out now since it is not needed.
maik wrote:I just checked and it looks ok to me. What is it that does not work?
I was thinking that it should be sortable. Then, this morning after a good nights sleep I realised that it would not be able to give a proper sorting, that is what the volume column is for.
Re: The Alphabetical Ship List
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:41 pm
by maik
Fatleaf wrote:maik wrote:Correct, dimensions is not needed anymore. It will only be displayed, if width, height, and length are not given, but then volume cannot be calculated.
I was under the impression that they were when I was informed to copy the
Adder list and that has the dimensions entry included! But I will leave it out now since it is not needed.
Sorry for not making this clear earlier.
Re: The Alphabetical Ship List
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:41 pm
by maik
I'll start with 'K'
Re: The Alphabetical Ship List
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:34 pm
by Fatleaf
maik wrote:Fatleaf wrote:maik wrote:Correct, dimensions is not needed anymore. It will only be displayed, if width, height, and length are not given, but then volume cannot be calculated.
I was under the impression that they were when I was informed to copy the
Adder list and that has the dimensions entry included! But I will leave it out now since it is not needed.
Sorry for not making this clear earlier.
I was just re-reading through the instructions you sent me and you did make it clear. I just didn't read it properly. So it is my error and I apologise for it.
Re: The Alphabetical Ship List
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:37 pm
by Fatleaf
Moving swiftly on to L.
Re: The Alphabetical Ship List
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:14 pm
by Fatleaf
That's L done. Going on to M.
Re: The Alphabetical Ship List - Transclusion?
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:03 pm
by SandJ
Smivs wrote:maik wrote:Smivs wrote:So how should I deal with something like the
Clippers? Two ships (Python and Boa Clippers) in one OXP. Am I supposed to have three pages now - one for the OXP and one for each ship?
Yes, that would be best: one page per OXP with link to each page for each ship. Exception: If there is only one ship in an OXP then both can have the same page.
I appreciate and understand what you are trying to do here, but it cannot possibly be 'best' to have three pages instead of one! Also, I have to believe that people looking up my OXP will want all the info together on one page. It seems crazy to have the OXP 'detailed' on one page without most of the important details ie the ship descriptions and info. And if I keep the page largely as it is (with all the info pertinant to it) there will be mostly pointless duplication on the two ship pages.
I'm sure this isn't the only multi-ship OXP like this...there must be a better way to handle this, surely.
How about using
Transclusion? That allows the content of one page to appear in another.
I shall give it a go right now with the Dragon and its 3 variants and see how it looks ...
Re: The Alphabetical Ship List
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:54 pm
by Fatleaf
That's the M&M's done going on to the N's
I made a new page for the Moray Medical boat version. I just C&P's the entire Moray page and changed the title name and the info in the box. Hope this is ok with everybody. If anyone thinks the page should be made more unique, I am all ears!
Re: The Alphabetical Ship List - Transclusion?
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:19 pm
by maik
SandJ wrote:How about using
Transclusion? That allows the content of one page to appear in another.
I shall give it a go right now with the Dragon and its 3 variants and see how it looks ...
This is the template mechanism of MediaWiki. I'm not so sure we want to make every ship where the author put more than one infobox on one page into a template...
Re: The Alphabetical Ship List - Transclusion?
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:42 pm
by maik
maik wrote:SandJ wrote:How about using
Transclusion? That allows the content of one page to appear in another.
I shall give it a go right now with the Dragon and its 3 variants and see how it looks ...
This is the template mechanism of MediaWiki. I'm not so sure we want to make every ship where the author put more than one infobox on one page into a template...
Heh
Seems like I just learned a new trick--thanks SandJ for testing it.
Edit: Unfortunately, I don't think it helps with Smivs' situation where he does not want to edit separate pages but only one. Splitting out the ships and transcluding them into the main page helps assembling the main page, but the editing still needs to be done in the extracted pages.
Re: The Alphabetical Ship List
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:50 pm
by maik
I'll take on 'O' now.
Re: The Alphabetical Ship List
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:04 pm
by maik
Moving on to 'P'
Re: The Alphabetical Ship List
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:10 pm
by Smivs
So are transclusions OK then?
Re: The Alphabetical Ship List
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:30 pm
by maik
Smivs wrote:So are transclusions OK then?
As I wrote above: They would allow you to assemble your main page from other pages (e.g. have main content in the main page and ship infoboxes on other pages that are then transcluded), but you would still have to work on multiple pages for the updates. Might as well work with non-transcluded pages if maintenance is your concern.