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Re: Science Fiction Trivia
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:09 pm
by ffutures
Okay... let's think of something...
Two facilities in two different fictional universes - one is called The Raft, probably not its official title, the other is colloquially known as The Birdcage. Both serve the same purpose.
What is their common purpose, what is the OFFICIAL TITLE of the Birdcage, and which universe does it come from?
Re: Science Fiction Trivia
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 12:38 am
by Old Murgh
Looks like this one is outside my register. I briefly thought maybe the birdcage could be jargon for the "carriage" under a balloon craft, such as the Kon-Tiki in Meeting with Medusa, but it feels very reachy. Hardly belonging to a "fictional universe"..
Re: Science Fiction Trivia
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 8:09 pm
by ffutures
First clue - airships are not involved. Both facilities are designed to be as inaccessible and secure as possible; Both are depicted as occasionally failing in this goal. With regards being part of a vehicle, any mobility that might exist is NOT a primary function but might be incidental to the goals of inaccessibility and security.
Re: Science Fiction Trivia
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:43 am
by JD
The Raft could be a reference to the novel "Snowcrash", by Neal Stephenson. In that story, the Raft is a large collection of ships and boats, tethered together, housing a population of refugees. I think it's been travelling the oceans for some time, and during the novel is close to the US west coast.
Re: Science Fiction Trivia
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:16 pm
by ffutures
JD wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:43 am
The Raft could be a reference to the novel "Snowcrash", by Neal Stephenson. In that story, the Raft is a large collection of ships and boats, tethered together, housing a population of refugees. I think it's been travelling the oceans for some time, and during the novel is close to the US west coast.
Have a meaningless bonus point - not the right answer, unfortunately, but a nice idea.
Okay, second clue - Both are associated with the same aspect of government.
Re: Science Fiction Trivia
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:53 pm
by ffutures
Third clue: Both are from universes with superpowers.
And a hint - it's probably easier to find The Raft, once you know what it is it's fairly easy to find The Birdcage.
Re: Science Fiction Trivia
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:44 pm
by Old Murgh
ffutures wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:53 pm
Third clue: Both are from universes with superpowers.
And a hint - it's probably easier to find The Raft, once you know what it is it's fairly easy to find The Birdcage.
I knew I had heard of that Raft from somewhere, so its equivalent The Birdcage, is it the
Baumann Parahuman Containment Center that does what it says on the tin, from the
Parahumans/Worm-verse universe?
Re: Science Fiction Trivia
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:30 pm
by ffutures
Old Murgh wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:44 pm
ffutures wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:53 pm
Third clue: Both are from universes with superpowers.
And a hint - it's probably easier to find The Raft, once you know what it is it's fairly easy to find The Birdcage.
I knew I had heard of that Raft from somewhere, so its equivalent The Birdcage, is it the
Baumann Parahuman Containment Center that does what it says on the tin, from the
Parahumans/Worm-verse universe?
Exactly right - they're both prisons for supercriminals - The Raft is from Marvel.
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Raft - the film version is a submarine, not an island
https://worm.fandom.com/wiki/Baumann_Pa ... ent_Center - a VERY nasty prison that nobody is ever allowed to leave.
The ball is in your court!
Re: Science Fiction Trivia
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:40 pm
by Old Murgh
A good hint can make the difference. At least I was sure I had the movie 'The Raft' from somewhere.
My court..
Which (at least two) sci-fi works apply the term "skin job" to androids, and which is the most attractive skin job?
Re: Science Fiction Trivia
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 10:41 pm
by ffutures
No problem finding two works, describing which one is the most attractive is the hard part.
OK - the easy choices are
Battlestar Galactica (2005 onward), can't remember if it was also used in
Caprica but I think not because the skin jobs come as a surprise in BSG, and
Blade Runner,
based on Dick's Do Androids Dream of Electronic Sheep? which was probably the first source for the term. I'd be surprised if it isn't also used in
Blade Runner 2049 but I haven't actually seen that. I think it may have also been used in the
Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles TV series but I'm not 100% sure.
Since I have to pick "the most attractive" I'll choose one option for each source: Rachael, the posh totty from
Blade Runner who doesn't actually know that she is is a skin job. Caprica 6 from
BSG because I'm that shallow and she's really hot in a red dress. And Cameron from
TSCC because hey, it's Summer Glau and she's awesome although a bit young for my tastes.
https://youtu.be/VSOzdFoZsho - Blade Runner
https://youtu.be/pHUEYIE_MZA - Battlestar Galactica
https://youtu.be/LczkDCiIceQ - Terminator
Re: Science Fiction Trivia
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:48 am
by Old Murgh
ffutures wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 10:41 pm
No problem finding two works, describing which one is the most attractive is the hard part.
OK - the easy choices are
Battlestar Galactica (2005 onward), can't remember if it was also used in
Caprica but I think not because the skin jobs come as a surprise in BSG, and
Blade Runner,
based on Dick's Do Androids Dream of Electronic Sheep? which was probably the first source for the term. I'd be surprised if it isn't also used in
Blade Runner 2049 but I haven't actually seen that. I think it may have also been used in the
Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles TV series but I'm not 100% sure.
Since I have to pick "the most attractive" I'll choose one option for each source: Rachael, the posh totty from
Blade Runner who doesn't actually know that she is is a skin job. Caprica 6 from
BSG because I'm that shallow and she's really hot in a red dress. And Cameron from
TSCC because hey, it's Summer Glau and she's awesome although a bit young for my tastes.
https://youtu.be/VSOzdFoZsho - Blade Runner
https://youtu.be/pHUEYIE_MZA - Battlestar Galactica
https://youtu.be/LczkDCiIceQ - Terminator
Lol, very thorough.
I didn't know about the Terminator series, but the answers I was looking for were of course Blade Runner and BSG. (Surely it can't come up in Caprica, wasn't that a prequel series?), and full marks for the honesty (reading between the lines here) of admitting that ahead of Rachael (and Pris), #6 is indeed the most sultry android ever created.
Re: Science Fiction Trivia
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:12 pm
by ffutures
Going by the plot summary on Wikipedia, "Caprica shows how humanity first created the Cylon androids who would later turn against their human masters," so is presumably set when Cylons were bulky metal robots and couldn't pass for human. Since I've only ever seen a couple of trailers I can't say if there are any skin jobs in it, but I agree it's unlikely.
OK, I guess it's my turn again. Oh joy...
A 1980s record was briefly no. 1 in the charts, and features various characters from a major SF series. The official music video featured claymation animation.
Name the song, the performers, and the show
Re: Science Fiction Trivia
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:18 am
by ffutures
Belated thought on the previous question - looking at the photos for
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles I think that on the whole the T-1001 known as Catherine Weaver is hotter than Cameron - also a LOT scarier, but I think that comes with being a shape-changing assassin/weapon from the future...
https://terminator.fandom.com/wiki/Catherine_Weaver
https://youtu.be/TE-9Lt8bpME
Re: Science Fiction Trivia
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:37 am
by Old Murgh
ffutures wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:18 am
Belated thought on the previous question - looking at the photos for Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles I think that on the whole the T-1001 known as Catherine Weaver is hotter than Cameron - also a LOT scarier, but I think that comes with being a shape-changing assassin/weapon from the future...
The singer from Garbage? I had never seen her murder before. It wouldn't appear that her part comes with the alluring complexities on a level with BSG Six.
On the question at hand, I suspect I remember a music video that ticks the boxes, except the song was so annoying there's no way it was #1 in the charts.
Re: Science Fiction Trivia
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:02 pm
by spud42
gonna guess Peter Gabriel Sledgehammer. cant think of the show but i will guess star trek ?