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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:58 pm
by CheeseRedux
This project is just getting more and more impressive each day.
It has been sitting in one of the permanently open tabs on my browser for quite some time now, and nothing short of a major browser malfunction is going to remove it - and if that happens, it will be among the very first things I put back.
Absolutely brilliant!
Re: New Features
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:29 pm
by Lestradae
treczoks wrote:I just added a very special system to the list: Soro, known in FP2.0 as Ascension. Check it out:
Sori
A minor nitpick: Ascension is in Famous Planets 2 and also in the upcoming OSE. In OSE all is the same, though it's TL is 16, not 15. Perhaps that could be mentioned?
Cheers & keep up the good work
L
Re: New Features
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:56 pm
by pagroove
treczoks wrote:pagroove wrote:On Aronar You included also FP entries. These are not yet on the other planets is that correct?
I just added a very special system to the list: Soro, known in FP2.0 as Ascension. Check it out:
Sori
Edit: Just entered the 100th system.
Yours, Christian Treczoks
Getting more impressive by the minute
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:04 pm
by Kaks
Yep, really impressive stuff! Soon, you'll have the whole of galaxy 1 in the "Planet's Almanach"...
Re: New Features
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:07 am
by treczoks
Lestradae wrote:A minor nitpick: Ascension is in Famous Planets 2 and also in the upcoming OSE. In OSE all is the same, though it's TL is 16, not 15. Perhaps that could be mentioned?
Yes, I noticed this in your post about OSE, but did not spot the TL difference. This might pose a problem, though, because max TL is 15 (at the moment).
it would be a "back to the drawing board" in a literal way
As far as I've seen it, Ascension is the only OSE system in Sector 1.
Please be patient - I'll continue uploading the first sector, and will address these issues when the initial uploading is completed.
Yours, Christian Treczoks
Re: New Features
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:30 am
by DaddyHoggy
treczoks wrote:Lestradae wrote:A minor nitpick: Ascension is in Famous Planets 2 and also in the upcoming OSE. In OSE all is the same, though it's TL is 16, not 15. Perhaps that could be mentioned?
Yes, I noticed this in your post about OSE, but did not spot the TL difference. This might pose a problem, though, because max TL is 15 (at the moment).
it would be a "back to the drawing board" in a literal way
As far as I've seen it, Ascension is the only OSE system in Sector 1.
Please be patient - I'll continue uploading the first sector, and will address these issues when the initial uploading is completed.
Yours, Christian Treczoks
Anyway to add a simple '+' symbol for any system above TL15? As these systems are all artificially created anyway.
Re: New Features
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:23 pm
by treczoks
DaddyHoggy wrote:Anyway to add a simple '+' symbol for any system above TL15? As these systems are all artificially created anyway.
Ah, that would be the easy way. sadly, the wiki engine is a bit old and missing at least one important extension, so I can't generate a generic solution for this - i.e. I've to address the TL 16 seperately from lets say a TL 17 or 18. - There is currenly no way to say "If (TL>15) then display 15+" in the wiki.
But I'll find a way to add at least a handle for TL16 for modified systems.
Yours, Christian
Re: New Features
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:53 pm
by treczoks
Lestradae wrote:
A minor nitpick: Ascension is in Famous Planets 2 and also in the upcoming OSE. In OSE all is the same, though it's TL is 16, not 15. Perhaps that could be mentioned?
I just added the possibility to use a TL16 and wanted to add the OSE version of Ascension, and noticed:
Lestradae wrote:<key>0 66</key>
<dict>
<key>name</key>
<string>Ascension</string>
<key>techlevel</key>
<integer>15</integer>
(I removed "description" for brevity, but the data is from your post in this thread)
Node Zero and some others are TL16, and Oresrati is supposed to be TL17 (but who's going to check this? Although - I once met someone in a shady space bar who swore on The Old Traders Almanach that he was in Oresrati back in '62.
), but Ascension is a mere TL15.
Yours, Christian Treczoks
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:56 pm
by Lestradae
Just quick:
"15" in planetinfo is "16" ingame, "5" is "6" etc.
Therefore, OSE-Ascension
is TL 16, Node Zero etc. is 17 and Oresrati is the only 18.
Ah, and in the OSE Ooniverse there actually is a way to Oresrati ... and a way out, as well. Spoilers.
Cheers
L
Re: ..
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:25 pm
by treczoks
Lestradae wrote:"15" in planetinfo is "16" ingame, "5" is "6" etc.
Therefore, OSE-Ascension
is TL 16, Node Zero etc. is 17 and Oresrati is the only 18.
OK, understood. But now we have two nearly-identical "Ascensions". I'm in no position to force anything, but wouldn't it be a good idea to synchronize this issue with pagroove? As it is a wiki, there is no problem in naming a shared entry "OSE and Famous Planets 2.0" (or vice versa), but having two nearly identical entries directly after each other somehow does not appeal to me.
Lestradae wrote:Ah, and in the OSE Ooniverse there actually is a way to Oresrati ... and a way out, as well. Spoilers.
Hehe...
Yours, Christian Treczoks
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:55 pm
by Lestradae
Actually, P.A.Groove entered Ascension into Famous Planets 2 as a teaser for the upcoming OSE. Therefore they are synchronised - but pagroove didn't want to go beyond the core game max TL of 15 for FP 2, so settled for the next best thing: 15.
I suggest to either list it as 16 anyways or mention "15 with FP2, 16 with upcoming OSE".
Hope to have muddled the waters even more cleared things up
L
Re: ..
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:06 pm
by pagroove
Lestradae wrote:Actually, P.A.Groove entered Ascension into Famous Planets 2 as a teaser for the upcoming OSE. Therefore they are synchronised - but pagroove didn't want to go beyond the core game max TL of 15 for FP 2, so settled for the next best thing: 15.
I suggest to either list it as 16 anyways or mention "15 with FP2, 16 with upcoming OSE".
Hope to have muddled the waters even more cleared things up
L
Re: New Features
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:52 am
by treczoks
Lestradae wrote:Ascension is in Famous Planets 2 and also in the upcoming OSE.
Just a quick question: Does the OSE OXP have a web- or wiki page yet?
Yours, Christian
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:01 am
by Zieman
Just checked (Oolite test 1.73.4 & Famous Planets 2.0):
Ingame planet info shows Ascension as Rich Industrial, Anarchy & Tech Level 16.
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:38 am
by treczoks
Zieman wrote:Just checked (Oolite test 1.73.4 & Famous Planets 2.0):
Ingame planet info shows Ascension as Rich Industrial, Anarchy & Tech Level 16.
OK, you're right here. Somehow I mixed up Government 0 and 7.
And if planets.plist indeed lists a zero-based TL (i.e. real TL-1), then OSE and OXP are indeed in sync.
Thanks for the info, I fixed the Sori/Ascension entry to state the data on Ascension as Rich Industrial, Anarchy and Techlevel 16.
Yours, Christian