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Re: Oolite Wikipedia - some issues

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 12:34 pm
by montana05
Cholmondely wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 12:31 pm
Thanking you, Sir!

I do miss my funeral hatchment, though.

Do funeral hatchments exist on the Continent (France, Germany...)? Does anyone know?
They certainly do exist. :wink:

Re: Oolite Wikipedia - some issues

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 12:37 pm
by Cholmondely
montana05 wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 12:34 pm
Cholmondely wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 12:31 pm
Thanking you, Sir!

I do miss my funeral hatchment, though.

Do funeral hatchments exist on the Continent (France, Germany...)? Does anyone know?
They certainly do exist. :wink:
What a relief!

Re: Oolite Wikipedia - some issues

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 12:42 pm
by Cholmondely
Cholmondely wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 4:54 pm
1) Clarification, please!

I understand that GUI refers to General User Interface. So these would be the F2-F8 screens and presumably also their dependants (such as the F3F3/F5F5/F6F6/F8F8 screens).

Are there any other screens which would be called GUI screens?

2) If I've missed out any equipment, please let me know!
Cody wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 5:15 pm
Make that Graphical User Interface.
According to thefreedictionary.com, GUI can inter alia stand for
*Graphical User Interface
*General User Interface (computing)
*Graphics Unit Interface
*Gaming Under the Influence (gaming clan)

Are there any other screens in the game which can be called GUI screens?

Re: Oolite Wikipedia - some issues

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 2:01 pm
by montana05
Cholmondely wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 12:42 pm
According to thefreedictionary.com, GUI can inter alia stand for
*Graphical User Interface
*General User Interface (computing)
*Graphics Unit Interface
*Gaming Under the Influence (gaming clan)

Are there any other screens in the game which can be called GUI screens?
Leave aside "Gaming Under the Influence" it is adding up to "User Interface". As much as I know (please correct me if I am wrong) in Oolite they are all graphical. With F4 there are some more, depending on the OXP's you installed you can have "Config for AddOnes" for example.

Re: Oolite Wikipedia - some issues

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 3:45 pm
by Cody
Is the OXZ download counter still not functioning? Any ideas, maik?

Re: Oolite Wikipedia - some issues

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 5:02 pm
by Cholmondely
Cody wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 3:45 pm
Is the OXZ download counter still not functioning? Any ideas, maik?
I could add one to the Glowroids page and then you could just see.

Or just add: ({{#downloads:Montana05 Griff Glowroids.OXZ}} downloads)

and see what happens!

For: File:Oolite.oxp.zzz.Montana05 Griff Glowroids.OXZ

Re: Oolite Wikipedia - some issues

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 5:09 pm
by Cody
I was looking at the Green Gecko - it's been stuck on 2909 for ages.

Re: Oolite Wikipedia - some issues

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 6:17 pm
by Cholmondely
Cody wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 5:09 pm
I was looking at the Green Gecko - it's been stuck on 2909 for ages.
Right. I just downloaded one and it didn't change.

Re: Oolite Wikipedia - some issues

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 8:21 pm
by hiran
Cholmondely wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 10:37 pm
hiran wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 9:46 pm
From that I take that you took the 'OXP title', not the OXP's identifier as page title. Good enough, I will try to check which of the pages do exist.
If you see some traffic scanning the wiki that might be me.
Sorry, don't understand the difference!

I took on board your comments which made a lot of sense, and looked for how things were named in the game. If I'm playing the game, what are the names that I see?

So: Thargoid's repair bots. In-game they are listed on both the F3 & F5 screens as Self-Repair System, but the cheapest version is listed as Repair Nanobots. The OXZ is listed as Repair Bots on the Expansions Manager. The wiki page is already called Repair Bots OXP.
So I created 2 redirects: Self-Repair system and several hours later, Repair Nanobots.
Ok, let's stick with that example. There is one OXP that has an
Identifier: oolite.oxp.Thargoid.RepairBots
Title: Repair Bots

This OXP contains a ship with
Identifier: repairBots_Bots
Name: Repair Nanobots

The same OXP contains some equipment which I have not listed here. But maybe you get the point: The identifier is a unique item for Oolite internals while the other is just a friendly name to display to human beings. Check my index page how many different equipment is called "HUD".
I am absolutely fine by creating all these nice documentation pages with the friendly names.

Re: Oolite Wikipedia - some issues

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 8:46 pm
by maik
Cody wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 3:45 pm
Is the OXZ download counter still not functioning? Any ideas, maik?
Will check, give me a few days. Thursday is a bank holiday over here : )

Re: Oolite Wikipedia - some issues

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 9:16 pm
by Cody
Cheers, amigo!

Re: Oolite Wikipedia - some issues

Posted: Sun May 30, 2021 7:08 pm
by Cody
[nudge]

Re: Oolite Wikipedia - some issues

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:12 pm
by Cholmondely
I finally found out why so many OXPs were being tagged as Unclassified OXPs: (SIRF, Superhub, UsefulMFDs, Barrel Roll, etc).

People had used a sensible but wrong entry for the OXP category. Note now made on the http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Catego ... ified_OXPs to help other would-be fixers in future!

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I've left the two SOTL oxps there as I want a new category for them, but I'd rather achieve some sort of consensus on the category name.

Cim called them scenarios, which to me sounds a bit measly. I'd rather call a Galactic Navy-based ooniverse or a HIMSN-based ooniverse a scenario - it's roughly the same ooniverse but with either a strong GalCop, or a weak one, with corresponding effects on piracy, Thargoid invasions, etc. SOTL seems to me rather more grand.

New Universe OXPs?
New Game OXPs?

Re: Oolite Wikipedia - some issues

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:56 am
by Cody
maik wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 8:46 pm
Will check, give me a few days.
[nudge]

Re: Oolite Wikipedia - some issues

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:19 pm
by hiran
Cholmondely wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:12 pm
I finally found out why so many OXPs were being tagged as Unclassified OXPs: (SIRF, Superhub, UsefulMFDs, Barrel Roll, etc).

People had used a sensible but wrong entry for the OXP category. Note now made on the http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Catego ... ified_OXPs to help other would-be fixers in future!
Sounds to me like we should track down all the typos in the plist files. There are 92 instances of 'unknown key' listed in
http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Index_of_artefacts