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Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:08 am
by Cmdr James
cbr wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:02 am
Star trek TNG, identity crisis, it is a parasite that is using humanoid genetic material.
Good!

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:43 am
by Disembodied
The unidentified aliens responsible for the children in John Wyndham's The Midwich Cuckoos.

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:37 am
by RockDoctor
aliens/monsters/scifi whatever types of life that use other species to reproduce.
I'm going to go for an entire genre, and show my working.
The genre is those who achieve regular FTL flight by transmitting the "mind" of a "passenger" to a remote location, where it is "downloaded" into a locally made "meat body".
The specific example I'm thinking of is "Neptune's Brood" by Charlie Stross, but that's not the only story I've read which ploughs the same furrow.
The "working" is that only occasionally does the genome information of the passenger get mentioned. That's a relatively small information blob (Binary Large OBject) compared to memories and the "state of mind" of the passenger, so technically it's probably an easier task to transmit. It's also a data format we understand reasonably well, in stark contrast to "what is a memory", and "what is a thought" in electrical, molecular and temporal terms. But generally, the genome is not mentioned.

There is also the question if how the recipient body is built. If it is from "formless matter", then the meat sack isn't going to be much use for creating genetic descendants (another hole I can't recall having seen plugged). Alternatively, using the genome to craft the meat sack means the passenger is going to be "in transit" for 9 months and something. Which is a story possibility. How to imprint a genome into every cell of an existing "blank meat bag" is left as an exercise for the listener.

What happens to non-genetic information (e.g. fingerprints, iris patterns, the vein pattern in hands, most biometric ID systems I can think of), and incidental bodily features (amputations, scars, tattoos (internal and external) ... is another hole in the trope.

Anyway, holes in the trope aside, unless the "send genome first and build a body from that" strategy is taken, the "mind" gets downloaded into a genetically unrelated body, which is the target of the question.

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:10 am
by Cmdr James
So, that is indeed 3. Over to you :)

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:17 pm
by RockDoctor
Cmdr James wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:10 am
So, that is indeed 3. Over to you :)
Me?
Or Disembodied?

Why has it just gone dark? Oh - thinking cap two sizes too big.

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:24 pm
by RockDoctor
Cmdr James wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:10 am
So, that is indeed 3. Over to you :)
On the assumption that it's me, and since inspiration struck when I lifted the thinking cap from my eyes and saw - the fruit bowl ...

Name five ten bits of human cuisine which some aliens actually like. Usual caveats about one per universe/ author ... no, actually not. Let's let you snag several "dishes" from one universe if you do it in one message. Count increased to accommodate.
I'm probably going to regret this, because some Trekkie is going to get the happy ending with one post. Acreage of script eventually counts for something, no matter how corny it is.

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:41 pm
by cbr
Trek it is... Raktajino, alias Klingon Coffee

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:39 am
by Disembodied
Sticking with Trek, Worf was very fond of prune juice.

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:50 pm
by spud42
long shot but do the "prawns" from district 9 loving cat food count?

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:28 pm
by ffutures
Another coffee-loving species - L. Neil Smith's The Nagasaki Vector (1983) has the alien Yamaguchians who developed sentience after eating coffee grounds and other caffeinated waste such as tea bags, and decided that the human who had fed them the stuff initially was god. They continue to drink coffee in large quantities since it literally helps them think.

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:39 pm
by cbr
Beerus Loves Icecream, DBZ :twisted:

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:22 pm
by ffutures
Superman (Kal El of Krypton) likes beef bourguignon with ketchup, pretzels with mustard, hot dogs, and his mom's rhubarb pie. But he has eaten some very weird things over the years:
https://www.cbr.com/the-weirdest-things ... has-eaten/

And also from the DC comics canon, J'on J'onzz the Martian Manhunter loves Oreo cookies (though they eventually started calling them Chocos, probably because he was depicted as addicted to them and the Oreo people complained).

https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Chocos

When he died at one point Batman left one on his coffin on Mars.

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:04 am
by Disembodied
J'onn J'onzz, AKA the Martian Manhunter, is pretty much addicted to Oreo cookies.

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:51 pm
by ffutures
Disembodied wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:04 am
J'onn J'onzz, AKA the Martian Manhunter, is pretty much addicted to Oreo cookies.
Must be an echo here...

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:45 pm
by RockDoctor
cbr wrote:
Trek it is... Raktajino, alias Klingon Coffee
OK
1 for 9
Disembodied wrote:
Sticking with Trek, Worf was very fond of prune juice.
OK. I was actually anticipating one user doing all the Treks in one go, but "Meh".
1 for 8.
spud42 wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:50 pm
long shot but do the "prawns" from district 9 loving cat food count?
Oh sure, particularly because it'll make the "straights" skins crawl.
3 for 7.
ffutures wrote:
Another coffee-loving species - L. Neil Smith's The Nagasaki Vector (1983) has the alien Yamaguchians who developed sentience after eating coffee grounds
Sounds fun. 4 for 6.
cbr wrote:
Beerus Loves Icecream
5 for 5.
ffutures wrote:
Superman (Kal El of Krypton) likes beef bourguignon with ketchup,
[*]pretzels with mustard,
[*]hot dogs,
[*]and his mom's rhubarb pie.
[*]J'on J'onzz the Martian Manhunter loves Oreo cookies
And I believe that makes 5 more for none left and the hat goes to ffutures.