Replacing Constores with Griff Trade outposts@Griff and Doc

Ark · Post by **Ark** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:08 pm

Sorry DH this is too abstract for a roof billboard and also the pseudo-outlines does not give you the impression of a neon billboard.

Can somebody with better tools (I do not even have Photoshop) and better skills work in the following draft.

My idea is to clear this from the black surround and enhanced the variety of the frames.

1st frame totally black (as it is),
2nd only the lemon will glow,
3rd the lemon and the straw
and the final frame as it is

It will be a simple but totally valid roof billboard

Post by **Disembodied** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:04 pm

I've had a go but unpicking the fuzzy glows from each other is beyond me, I'm afraid ...

Someone fire up the Griffsignal!

I've done a revised version of the boxing robots with a bit more movement in it – again, for the slush pile for you to use as you want:

Website · Post by **DaddyHoggy** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:10 pm

Ark wrote:
Sorry DH this is too abstract for a roof billboard and also the pseudo-outlines does not give you the impression of a neon billboard.

Ok, I give up.

I'll do the Oodles defender and then I'm done.

Website · Post by **DaddyHoggy** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:16 pm

Oodles Defender.

That's me done.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:13 am

Very cool artwork guys!
sorry i haven't posted for a bit, when i get a moment i'll get all these shader ready - D_H that grooving neon figure looks rather cool, i think i prefer the first one without the white wireframes behind it, do you think we should take it and make one of the constores a 'space disco' or something?

i know, put a glittery mirror ball on the roof, have D_H's figures getting down with their bad-selves (i hope that's a dancing term, i'm a bit out of my depth here with the lingo) on the ad-ring, put multicolour disco lights in the docking bay? and ask one of the scripters to write us a routine that pipes cheesy funk music into the cabin when you fly past? The boxing animation would work too, maybe it could be a whole new sports/entertaiment complex?

Ark · Post by **Ark** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:43 am

That’s the deference between Griff and me. I can only see an invalid roof billboard but Griff can see a new world of possibilities out of it.
It seems that I simply cannot fit here anymore. I am an alien to this tread since I do not have an artistic vein

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:07 am

don't give up on the oxp Ark, you've put a load of work into it and brought a lot of seperate ideas and odd bits and pieces of artwork together to make something really cool for the Ooniverse, so you must have some artistic tendencies and sence of 'what works with what'
the space disco was just a fun idea - an off-shoot to the main oxp, an outlet for artwork that may not fit the con-stores - i wasn't trying to hi-jack the oxp and drive it off into some sort of 70's john travolta fantasy of mine

I guess i watched you-tube clips of the dance scene out of Saturday night fever a bit too closely when i was trying to make the dancing robot animation earlier, it's planted subliminal urges in my brain!

Ark · Post by **Ark** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:17 am

I have a very sharp eye – nothing more

As for the idea it is a very cool one that can be applied into a future constore. But bear in mind the average time for the creation of a new youradhere set is about 6 to 8 months (due to the 50 or 54 ads)

Website · Post by **DaddyHoggy** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:14 pm

If somebody wants to use/resurrect this feel free - I like your ideas for the "space disco" Griff - the giant mirror ball made me laugh!

When animated - "Cotton-eye Joe" should be played loud in the background - I don't know if line-dancing will still be around in the 32nd Century...

Ark · Post by **Ark** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:54 pm

I am preparing the credits txt for the new version of youradher. Actually is the same with the credits.txt taken from Dr. Nil’s site with the addition of the artists that contributed to the creation of the constores.
Lately I do not trust my memory very much (RL was not so nice to me that last weeks – but it is nothing irreversible)
Can the rest of you please take a look in case I have forgotten someone?

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Credits

Set A

Billboard 01, front: Pangloss - Lave Fried Trumble
Billboard 01, back: Griff - Edible Arts Graduates
Billboard 02, front: johnsmith - Bibean Lethal Brandy
Billboard 02, back: Twisted - Oo Lite
Billboard 03, front: DaddyHoggy - Open Ooniversity
Billboard 03, back:: Arexack_Heretic - Wartime Propaganda
Billboard 04, front: johnsmith - Pilkerson
Billboard 04, back: Judebert - Jack Voysey P.I.
Billboard 05, front: johnsmith  - Don't FWI
Billboard 05, back: DaddyHoggy - Keep safe distance
Billboard 06, front: DaddyHoggy - The Oolite Ordnance
Billboard 06, back: reills - Fritoo Lay Trumble Chips
Billboard 07, front: drnil - OCC Teretrurus MK-I
Billboard 07, back: drnil - Grupo Langostaides Azules
Billboard 08, front: Griff - Laveian Tree Grubs
Billboard 08, back: Griff - Laveian Tree Grubs
Billboard 09, front: drnil - Droogs boxset
Billboard 09, back: drnil - Status Quo
Billboard 10, front: Twisted - Inzaan Zoo Menu
Billboard 10, back: Twisted - Inzaan Zoo Menu
Billboard 11, front: Charlie - Benulobiweed Merlin
Billboard 11, back: Charlie - Benulobiweed Swift
Billboard 12, front: Twisted - Inzaan Zoo
Billboard 12, back: Twisted - Inzaan Zoo
Billboard 13, front: DaddyHoggy - Alien Abduction
Billboard 13, back: DaddyHoggy - Snoopes
Billboard 14, front: Griff - Cat Preserves
Billboard 14, back: johnsmith - Monu's Preservatifs
Billboard 15, front: drnil - Church of Giles the Creator
Billboard 15, back: DaddyHoggy - Thargon Invaders
Billboard 16, front: Twisted - ETT Homing Beacons
Billboard 16, back: johnsmith - Teance Tourist
Billboard 17, front: johnsmith - Lance & Ferman FdL
Billboard 17, back: johnsmith - Lance & Ferman Missiles
Billboard 18, front: reills - Texacoo
Billboard 18, back: reills - Citgoo
Billboard 19, front: reills - BabylOon 5
Billboard 19, back: (requested by TGHC, made by ?) - Oolite bb
Billboard 20, front: Griff - Murgh's Used Craft Showroom
Billboard 20, back: Twisted - Isveveian Isolationist Movement
Billboard 21, front: DaddyHoggy - FedOox
Billboard 21, back: DaddyHoggy - Oops
Billboard 22, front: reills - Hooliday Inn
Billboard 22, back: reills - Sheratoon
Billboard 23, front: johnsmith - Monu Surprise Pills
Billboard 23, back: DaddyHoggy - Accoorist
Billboard 24, front: ramon - Star Sports ZG Hockey
Billboard 24, back: drnil - Trumble
Billboard 25, front: Disembodied - Poopsi
Billboard 25, back: Disembodied - Lethal Zamaon Water

Constore Pi-42: 	
Roof billboard: Griff - Dancing robot
Brand ad:	    DaddyHoggy - Pi-42 brand ad
1X2 billboard:  Griff - Happy thrumble
1X1 biilboard:  Griff - Madam hiss
Adring:	      Griff	
Glowads:	     Pangloss
Sidewinder:     Pangloss			


Set B

Billboard 01, front: johnsmith - Diso Tourist
Billboard 01, back: johnsmith - Orerve Tourist
Billboard 02, front: drew - Tianve Pulsar
Billboard 02, back: johnsmith - Inonin Tourist
Billboard 03, front: Griff - Supernova Heights
Billboard 03, back: DaddyHoggy - OO-Haul
Billboard 04, front: johnsmith Goat Soup
Billboard 04, back: reills - Pizza Hoot
Billboard 05, front: johnsmith - Barry's Dry Docks
Billboard 05, back: DaddyHoggy - Elite Insurance
Billboard 06, front: Arexack_Heretic - The Ooliteshow
Billboard 06, back: johnsmith - Bugg-Off!
Billboard 07, front: johnsmith - A Droid Is for Life
Billboard 07, back: Pangloss - GalCop Recruitment
Billboard 08, front: Cmdr Wyvern - Pteradyne Paladin
Billboard 08, back: ramon - Grand Theft Astro
Billboard 09, front: Arexack_Heretic - Planet Express
Billboard 09, back: Judebert - Raaleian Edible Poet
Billboard 10, front: johnsmith - Blue Screen of Death
Billboard 10, back: LittleBear - Shot out screen
Billboard 11, front: Pangloss - AD-X Ride the Wave
Billboard 11, back: Pangloss - AD-X Broken
Billboard 12, front: DaddyHoggy - Tescoo Oxpress
Billboard 12, back: DaddyHoggy - Tescoo
Billboard 13, front: ramon - Marett Mosquito Trader
Billboard 13, back: ramon - Marett Mosquito Trader
Billboard 14, front: Charlie - Benulobiweed Falcon
Billboard 14, back: Charlie - Benulobiweed Kestrel
Billboard 15, front: Twisted - AD-X HD
Billboard 15, back: Twisted - AD-X HD
Billboard 16, front: reills - Commoodore
Billboard 16, back: reills - Oomiga
Billboard 17, front: Arexack_Heretic - Navy Recruitment
Billboard 17, back: Arexack_Heretic - Navy Recruitment
Billboard 18, front: drnil - Stop the Thargoids
Billboard 18, back: Twisted - Don't buy blood blenders
Billboard 19, front: Twisted - B.weed fuselage enlargement
Billboard 19, back: Twisted - Bebidiso T-shirt Store
Billboard 20, front: Pangloss - GalCop Recruitment
Billboard 20, back: Pangloss - Pink Flamingo Lounge
Billboard 21, front: johnsmith - Aesbion Tourist
Billboard 21, back: johnsmith - Aesbion Tourist
Billboard 22, front: Judebert - Boyracer Phreak Attack
Billboard 22, back: Judebert - Boyracer Phreak Attack
Billboard 23, front: Charlie - Benulobiweed Pallas
Billboard 23, back: Charlie - Benulobiweed Condor
Billboard 24, front: ramon - Beyond Witchspace
Billboard 24, back: ramon - Bibeian Lethal Brandy
Billboard 25, front: DaddyHoggy - The Boosh
Billboard 25, back: DaddyHoggy - Friends of Uscela

Constore Tescoo Oxpress: 
Roof billboard: Griff - Drinking spaceman
Brand ad:	    DaddyHoggy - Tescoo oxpress brand ad
1X2 billboard:  Griff - Octabrandy
1X1 biilboard:  Griff - Alcopills
Adring:	      Pangloss
Glowads:	     Pangloss
Sidewinder:     DaddyHoggy	

Set C

Billboard 01, front: HueijRevisited - Oolite drink of the stars
Billboard 01, back: reils - Oopsi Cola
Billboard 02, front: DaddyHoggy - Voodoofoone
Billboard 02, back: drnil - Weyland Yutani Corp
Billboard 03, front: drnil - Starbugs
Billboard 03, back: drnil - Soylent Green
Billboard 04, front: drnil - Booger King
Billboard 04, back: drumz - All Your Base Are Belong to Us
Billboard 05, front: reills - Forbidden Planet
Billboard 05, back: DaddyHoggy - Bee & Qoo
Billboard 06, front: (from Murgh's Lave OXP) - Thargoid Queen
Billboard 06, back: (from Murgh's Lave OXP) - Kettle's Fungal Cures
Billboard 07, front: (from Murgh's Lave OXP) - H3 Hatchling
Billboard 07, back: (from Murgh's Lave OXP) - L&F Military Laser
Billboard 08, front: (from Murgh's Lave OXP) - Elite IV
Billboard 08, back: (from Murgh's Lave OXP) - Trumble
Billboard 09, front: drnil - Pi-42
Billboard 09, back: drnil - ORBS conference
Billboard 10, front: Commander McLane - Mabelala Institute of Technology
Billboard 10, back: drnil - Sirius Cybernetics Corporation
Billboard 11, front: drnil - Central Services
Billboard 11, back: drnil - Kruger Oreprocessor
Billboard 12, front: drnil - Happy Eye
Billboard 12, back: drnil - Mad Avian Disease
Billboard 13, front: drnil - Advanced Space Compass
Billboard 13, back: drnil - Onatbeza Medical School
Billboard 14, front: drnil - What Spaceship?
Billboard 14, back: drnil - You are here
Billboard 15, front: drnil - Hoopy Casino
Billboard 15, back: drnil - Lavean Flight Training Academy
Billboard 16, front: drnil - Black Monks
Billboard 16, back: drnil - Madam Krynxf
Billboard 17, front: drnil - Disaster Area
Billboard 17, back: drnil - Slartibartfast Coast Lines
Billboard 18, front: drnil - L-Crate Hauler
Billboard 18, back: drnil - My Generation
Billboard 19, front: drnil - Ooniversal Cooling
Billboard 19, back: drnil - Speciecism
Billboard 20, front: drnil - Planet of the Apes
Billboard 20, back: drnil - Soinisat Tourist
Billboard 21, front: drnil - Enalno Bananas
Billboard 21, back: drnil - Kruger Fuel Scoops
Billboard 22, front: drnil - Ad-X Self Promotion
Billboard 22, back: drnil - Ad-X Self Promotion
Billboard 23, front: drnil - Steak'n'Brew
Billboard 23, back: drnil - Junk Kills
Billboard 24, front: drnil - Atistiso Dφner Kebab
Billboard 24, back: drnil - Xeesqu Tourist
Billboard 25, front: (from Murgh's Lave OXP) - Rohan's Real Earth Ale
Billboard 25, back: (from Murgh's Lave OXP) - Tionisla Stellar Cemetary

Constore Mall Wart
Roof billboard:  Griff/ Disembodied - Happy frog
Brand ad:	     DaddyHoggy - Mall wart brand ad
1X2 billboard:   DaddyHoggy - ???????
1X1 biilboard:   Disembodied - Happy frog
Adring:	       Pangloss
Glowads:	      Griff
Sidewinder:      Pangloss	

Set D

Billboard 01, front: drnil - Medicinal Megaweed
Billboard 01, back: drnil - Snake-Oil
Billboard 02, front: Disembodied - Boorma Shave
Billboard 02, back: Disembodied - Boorma Shave
Billboard 03, front: drnil - Cosmorossi
Billboard 03, back: drnil - Looto
Billboard 04, front: Cmdr Wyvern - Lance & Ferman Energy Arms
Billboard 04, back: Cmdr Wyvern - Bender Wanted
Billboard 05, front: drnil - Ormala Vacuum Karate
Billboard 05, back: (requested by LB made by ?) - Galactic Racing League
Billboard 06, front: (requested by LB from http://www.hooplah.com/encounters/) - Cmk3
Billboard 06, back: (requested by LB from http://www.hooplah.com/encounters/) - Cmk3
Billboard 07, front: Arexack_Heretic - Speciecism Kills
Billboard 07, back: Arexack_Heretic - Thoraxxx Twister
Billboard 08, front: drnil - Aegis Secoority
Billboard 08, back: drnil - Esisor Tourist
Billboard 09, front: Disembodied - Azaqu
Billboard 09, back: Disembodied - Bookfast Toxic Wine
Billboard 10, front: drnil - Western Oonion
Billboard 10, back: drnil - Space Rickshaw
Billboard 11, front: Disembodied - Support the Moray Medicals
Billboard 11, back: Disembodied - Direbea Tourist
Billboard 12, front: Disembodied - Mycomechanoid Infestation
Billboard 12, back: Disembodied - Dannebrog Ore Processor
Billboard 13, front: Disembodied - Space Marines
Billboard 13, back: Ahruman - Esgeer University
Billboard 14, front: Disembodied - Roloo
Billboard 14, back: Disembodied - Tyley-Feynman Q-mine
Billboard 15, front: Disembodied - Rossum's Universal Robots
Billboard 15, back: drnil - Marlbooroo
Billboard 16, front: drnil - The Little Secret
Billboard 16, back: drnil - Hand Crafted Wheels
Billboard 17, front: Disembodied - Iru al ofico sur uno ovo
Billboard 17, back: Disembodied - Mama Mantis' Mating Relish
Billboard 18, front: Disembodied - Team Sissu grafitti
Billboard 18, back: Disembodied - Boing Miracle Plastic
Billboard 19, front: Disembodied - Umpty Candy
Billboard 19, back: Disembodied - Bistoo
Billboard 20, front: Disembodied - Mental Fixative
Billboard 20, back: Disembodied - Mecha Bingo
Billboard 21, front: drnil - HM3 Homing Missile
Billboard 21, back: drnil - Escape Pod
Billboard 22, front: drnil - Dead Poets Sushi
Billboard 22, back: drnil - Froot Shuit
Billboard 23, front: drnil - Texeonis Blender Massacre
Billboard 23, back: drnil - Sleazy Pete's
Billboard 24, front: drnil - Fuel Tank
Billboard 24, back: drnil - Adder Owners' Association
Billboard 25, front: Disembodied - Stridulation Compilation
Billboard 25, back: Disembodied - Mange

Constore Star: 
Roof billboard:  Pangloss - Fanky chichen
Brand ad:	     DaddyHoggy - Star brand ad (white)
1X2 billboard:   Griff - Lobbies can can
1X1 biilboard:   Griff - Coctail glass
Adring:	       Pangloss
Glowads:	      Pangloss
Sidewinder:      Pangloss

Set E

Billboard 01, front: Disembodied - ORBS Just the Facts
Billboard 01, back: (requested by an angry mob) - Hesperus Wanted
Billboard 02, front: Disembodied - Spawn Responsibly
Billboard 02, back: Disembodied - Kitintek Command Couch
Billboard 03, front: drnil - Poet Haggis
Billboard 03, back: drnil - Single Malt Alethma
Billboard 04, front: Disembodied - Scutum Shield Systems
Billboard 04, back: drnil - Xeoresce Mud Hockey
Billboard 05, front: Disembodied - Wattney Laser
Billboard 05, back: Disembodied - Fuel Injectors
Billboard 06, front: drnil - Astroklumpen
Billboard 06, back: drnil - Ooscar Awards
Billboard 07, front: Disembodied - Shrew Steak in a tin
Billboard 07, back: Disembodied - Executive Spaceways
Billboard 08, front: Disembodied - Cremoola Foom
Billboard 08, back: Disembodied - Escerce Tulips
Billboard 09, front: Disembodied - Prevent Runaway Singularities
Billboard 09, back: Disembodied - Usbira Tourist Board
Billboard 10, front: drnil - Miss Ooniverse (hairy lobstress dug up by AH)
Billboard 10, back: drnil - Iniser Tourist
Billboard 11, front: Disembodied - Irn Broo
Billboard 11, back: drnil - Imperial Courier
Billboard 12, front: drnil - Muscle for Hire
Billboard 12, back: drnil - Vacuum Karate Championship
Billboard 13, front: drnil - Wooly Nelson
Billboard 13, back: drnil - The Carnal Pleasures Bar
Billboard 14, front: drnil - The Loor
Billboard 14, back: drnil - Galactic Navy
Billboard 15, front: Disembodied - Birdish ad
Billboard 15, back: Disembodied - Mr Ooniverse
Billboard 16, front: Disembodied - Support the War Effort
Billboard 16, back: Disembodied - Support the War Effort
Billboard 17, front: Disembodied - Vicious Za Brew
Billboard 17, back: another_commander - The Ooniverse Knowledge Database
Billboard 18, front: Disembodied - Shrew Farming
Billboard 18, back: Disembodied & Captain Hesperus - Status Quo forever and ever
Billboard 19, front: Disembodied - The Who
Billboard 19, back: Disembodied - The Elvis 4000
Billboard 20, front: drnil - HAL's hot sister
Billboard 20, back: drnil - Lobbies Can-Can
Billboard 21, front: drnil - Numerologist Comandere Jamiezonh
Billboard 21, back: drnil - Popular Astrology Magazine
Billboard 22, front: drnil - Luxoory Space Passenger Cabins
Billboard 22, back: drnil - Tinytoomb Passenger Cabins
Billboard 23, front: Disembodied - Q-Bomb Bubblegum
Billboard 23, back: drnil - Sainsboory's
Billboard 24, front: drnil - Fair Space Trade Organic Poets
Billboard 24, back: drnil - Pofu poet flavoured tulip tofu
Billboard 25, front: Disembodied - Anenen Clown College
Billboard 25, back: Disembodied -  DynaFlo Galactic Hyperdrive

Constore Sainsboory's:
Roof billboard: Griff - Mr Pacman
Brand ad:	    DaddyHoggy - Sainsboory's brand ad
1X2 billboard:  DaddyHoggy - Coriolis preservation society
1X1 biilboard:  DaddyHoggy - Blue oester
Adring:	      Griff
Glowads:	     Pangloss
Sidewinder:     DaddyHoggy


Set F

Billboard 01, front: Disembodied - Osatbeza Museum of Antiquities
Billboard 01, back: Disembodied - WK-LOB
Billboard 02, front: drnil - David Bovie
Billboard 02, back: drnil - Erzara Convalescence
Billboard 03, front: drnil - Tractor Beam
Billboard 03, back: (supplied by Ahruman) - Never Forget 1-31-07
Billboard 04, front: Disembodied - Oomoo
Billboard 04, back: Disembodied - Lelebish Edible Moths
Billboard 05, front: Roberto - Outrider
Billboard 05, back: Roberto - Outrider
Billboard 06, front: Roberto - Major Berthie's British Bars
Billboard 06, back: Disembodied - Arazaesian Wolf Meat
Billboard 07, front: Disembodied - Moray Star Boat
Billboard 07, back: Disembodied - Ban the Bomb
Billboard 08, front: Disembodied - Carslboorg
Billboard 08, back: Disembodied - Ingram Lasers
Billboard 09, front: drnil - Tiescebi Dungeon
Billboard 09, back: Disembodied - Game Dodecahedron
Billboard 10, front: drnil - ZGH Spectators Act
Billboard 10, back: drnil - Susie Porcina
Billboard 11, front: Disembodied - Galactic Cup Swamp Rugby
Billboard 11, back: Disembodied - Isonorthern Rock
Billboard 12, front: Disembodied - Helmuth's Helmets
Billboard 12, back: drnil - Upgrade Cockpit Display Screens
Billboard 13, front: drnil - Vote Yes on 745
Billboard 13, back: Disembodied - Erbieder Forest
Billboard 14, front: Disembodied - Crelm 
Billboard 14, back: Disembodied - Alazan Dengue
Billboard 15, front: Disembodied - Wonderbracket
Billboard 15, back: Commander Mysenses - Ro-bods
Billboard 16, front: gorans - Mame
Billboard 16, back: gorans - Hypnotoad
Billboard 17, front: Disembodied - Dog's Milk
Billboard 17, back: Disembodied - Galactic Repair Service
Billboard 18, front: Disembodied - Worm
Billboard 18, back: Disembodied - Riedquat Ale
Billboard 19, front: Disembodied - Doughnuts
Billboard 19, back: Disembodied - Plumage transplant
Billboard 20, front: Disembodied - Liquid Lead
Billboard 20, back: Disembodied - Extra Energy Unit
Billboard 21, front: Disembodied - Celable Poetry Socity
Billboard 21, back: DaddyHoggy - Pull up!
Billboard 22, front: Disembodied - Lizards og Legees
Billboard 22, back: Disembodied - Poot Noddle
Billboard 23, front: Disembodied - Omnideity
Billboard 23, back: Commander Mysenses - Boopa Ooniversal Health Service
Billboard 24, front: Disembodied - Roobik's Tesseract
Billboard 24, back: DaddyHoggy - Trumble Bobble
Billboard 25, front: Stromboli - Spican Arms
Billboard 25, back: Stromboli - Mothbar

Constore Star MK2: 
Roof billboard: Pangloss - Fanky chichen
Brand ad:	    Pangloss - Star brand ad (black)
1X2 billboard:  DaddyHoggy - Hoopy casino
1X1 biilboard:  DaddyHoggy - Coctail bar
Adring:	      Pangloss
Glowads:	     Pangloss
Sidewinder:     Pangloss

Also I was unable to find a changelog.txt or something with a background story about youradhere oxp.

Website · Post by **DaddyHoggy** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:54 pm

Nicely Correlated Ark. Well done.

I think the "?????" for the 1x2 Ad in Mallwart may be for the Level 23 club (which I nicked from Pangloss's original YAH ad - so perhaps a double credit for that?)

I'm on my work machine so I can't confirm this!

Do you want to make note of the Asteroid Ads too - I'm thinking simply for the future where given the loveliness of the shader ads the Asteroid Ads may end up being unique to the Asteroids rather than just recycling ads already seen in YAH.

One thing I'm not sure of is where are we in terms of a complete set of everything for set F (black Star) and Set G (Oodles?) - will Set F need a matching (black Star) sidewinder livery for example. For sure, if we want to stay unique for each station then a Set G will need a new 1x1 as Cocktail Bar is being used in Set F.

BTW, I did have a look at redoing the Cocktail glass and as others have pointed out - it's not easy (possible?) because of the way the original "glow" is included in the greyscale (non-"lit") version of the frame.

Griff, if he was thinking ahead may have the original without the fake blurring but I suspect he may have started (like I usually do) with the coloured lit version and then made the unlit greyscale version from that. Only Griff can know...

later,

John

PS - Looking at my new skins for the Magma Racing Team I am somewhat ashamed of my constore defender skins - but they're consistant with the rest so have the same feel - although it could be argued that each constore owner would try to make his ships look the best - so there could be differences - but equally - defending the stores could be done by a 3rd party who just liveries up a standard ship with a minimum basic paint scheme....

The only backstory for YAH is in Doc's very first posting - how Ad-X using these giant Tetra-Screens is offering an outlet for all these big Corp's to sell the unsuspecting trader their wares...

Post by **Disembodied** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:41 pm

Possible backstory for the Convenience Stores:

The various member worlds of the influential Corporate State voting bloc, predominantly wealthy and with high levels of technology, have always bridled at Co-op restrictions on the classes and quantities of commodities exchanged at main system stations, demanding "Free Trade" instead. Other planets in the Co-operative, fearful that their own domestic economies would be overwhelmed by an arrangement that inherently favoured the rich and powerful, have always resisted such demands. Recently, a compromise was reached: the Co-operative allowed a number of independent trading posts to be set up in systems with sufficiently high levels of economic and political cohesion. The Convenience Stores were born: franchise stations, based near the Witchpoint, offering goods and services to passing ships. Unchecked by Co-op trade regulations, controlled commodities – slaves, narcotics and firearms – are offered freely, and legally, for sale.

Naturally, with the Corporate bloc providing most of the starting capital, Convenience Stores are hotbeds of commercial enterprise. They are encrusted with advertising, and even the stations' defence craft – cheap ex-Navy Sidewinders – are plastered with logos and corporate sponsorship. Within a Convenience Store, commerce moves at a rapid pace, and prices of even the most basic goods can fluctuate wildly. Some merchants, for commercial or ideological reasons, have abandoned the main system stations altogether; but cannier Commanders, balancing the reliable price index of the Co-operative against speculative capitalist bubble-blowing, can often exploit the feverish atmosphere of a Convenience Store to obtain impressive profits on relatively small quantities of goods.

Ark · Post by **Ark** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:26 pm

DaddyHoggy wrote:
Do you want to make note of the Asteroid Ads too - I'm thinking simply for the future where given the loveliness of the shader ads the Asteroid Ads may end up being unique to the Asteroids rather than just recycling ads already seen in YAH.

Well spotted DH. I also totally agree with you that from now on asteroid billboards must have unique ads

DaddyHoggy wrote:
will Set F need a matching (black Star) sidewinder livery for example.

I do not think that this is mandatory. It is the same company (star)

DaddyHoggy wrote:
For sure, if we want to stay unique for each station then a Set G will need a new 1x1 as Cocktail Bar is being used in Set F.

Not exactly. I have already include your naked dancer 1x1 ad. What???? a naked dancer???

This station (Trade outpost) was in the ~~porno~~ promo video of oolite. Now look what you did. shame on you DH

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But we still need an asteroid billboard png for set G. I am thinking that if we have 4 more ads for set G it will be possible to start the “unique ads for asteroid billboards” from set G. But I will leave that decision to the doc.

DaddyHoggy wrote:
BTW, I did have a look at redoing the Cocktail glass and as others have pointed out - it's not easy (possible?) because of the way the original "glow" is included in the greyscale (non-"lit") version of the frame.

Then we still need a roof billboard. Is it possible for you to make a Griffsignal (you know like the batman signal in the movies) .I believe that we are going to need it.

DaddyHoggy wrote:
Looking at my new skins for the Magma Racing Team I am somewhat ashamed of my constore defender skins

If you say so .. then “shame on you” again

@Disembodied:That is an impressive piece of writing Disembodied. Well done. What about a more general background story for youradhere. For example why terrascreens only exists in corporate states, confederacies and democracies, why asteroid billboards exist only in corporate states. Why communists systems accept the existence of a constore in their space if they have an above 4 billion population ect

Website · Post by **DaddyHoggy** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:21 pm

D'oh! Forgot about the dancer ad! Cool! So, just an asteroid ad then - and the infamous roof billboard....

Roll out the Griffsignal!

Post by **Disembodied** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:00 pm

How's this?

It all started with the Budget Crisis of 3119, when the Co-operative finally realised the scale of the overspend on the project to upgrade the old Faraway wormhole navigation system to the new Witchspace Beacon network. Gross financial mismanagement is hardly new to the Co-operative, or even (sadly) uncommon, but the Faraway fiasco was of an entirely different order of magnitude. This hole wasn't going to be filled with some budgetary offset and a bit of creative accountancy; somehow, the Witchspace Beacon network would have to start generating income.

The idea of charging a levy on all ships using Witchspace was briefly considered, then discarded as a) unpopular and, sadly, b) impossible. Fortunately, a solution was found: the Ad-X Corporation was prepared to pay handsomely for the right to station giant TeraScreen advertisements at the Witchpoint (and, in some larger systems, outside the main station itself).

It seemed like the problem had been solved. Unfortunately, the only systems prepared to accept unrestricted TeraScreen advertising were the Corporate States, the Democracies and the Confederacies. Dictatorships wanted to use the screens for their own purposes (usually, giant pictures of one Glorious Leader or another); the Communist worlds would have nothing but propaganda (and, indeed, have been working on a system of propaganda screens of their own); and the Multi-Government, Feudal and Anarchy worlds wanted a slice of the pie for themselves – one far bigger than their downmarket demographic warranted.

In desperation, the Co-operative cast around for other possible revenue streams. The various member worlds of the wealthy Corporate State voting bloc had always bridled at Co-op restrictions on the classes and quantities of commodities exchanged at main system stations, demanding "Free Trade" instead. Other planets in the Co-operative, fearful that their own domestic economies would be overwhelmed by an arrangement that inherently favoured the rich and powerful, had always resisted such demands. But faced with the possible bankruptcy of the entire stellar trading network, a compromise was reached: in return for a regular rent on the local Witchpoint volume, the Co-operative would allow a number of independent trading posts to be set up in systems with sufficiently high levels of economic, cultural and political cohesion – or, as some cynics have suggested, those systems with a big enough population to make the venture worthwhile.

Thus the Convenience Stores were born: franchise stations, based near the Witchpoint, offering goods and services to passing ships. Exempt from Co-op trade regulations, the Convenience Stores set about making money from every possible source. They are encrusted with advertising, and even the stations' defence craft – cheap ex-Navy Sidewinders – are plastered with logos and corporate sponsorship. Most controversially, controlled commodities – slaves, narcotics and firearms – are offered freely, and legally, for sale.

Within a Convenience Store, commerce moves at a rapid pace, and prices of even the most basic goods can fluctuate wildly. Some merchants, for commercial or ideological reasons, have abandoned the main system stations altogether; but cannier Commanders, balancing the reliable price index of the Co-operative against speculative capitalist bubble-blowing, can often exploit the feverish atmosphere of a Convenience Store to obtain impressive profits on relatively small quantities of goods.