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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:10 pm
by JensAyton
Zbond-Zbond wrote:
All these diagrams are created using a drawing application, all on Mac, ranging from early ClarisWorks (i.e. before AppleWorks, but identical from a user point of view) to the present using up-grades as available via AppleWorks in its various incarnations until I bought Leopard 10.5.1 plus the iWorks stuff (now sold separately).
I know we’ve had this conversation before, but: AppleWorks works fine under Leopard, and upgrading does not remove it. Really.

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:52 pm
by Kaks
Plus the current version of eazyDraw will definitely import macDraw files. You can always download the free trial if you don't believe it. So if you've been wanting to upgrade, there's no reason not to! :)

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:18 pm
by Zbond-Zbond
wackyman465 wrote:
What is the exchange rate for credits to USD or other earth currencies?
I'm not sure whether USD :arrow: an earth currency :?:

Although we tend to use fairly small currency units, £ € etc. in days gone by much larger units were available, even larger than 500€ note :o
the first £1bn+ deal was done c.1890 (by an individual) (who owned a private bank) - converting via average weekly earnings, or potatoes, that is quite a large sum, but long ago currency units such as the Roman Gold Talent, for example, were very large expressed in any Earth currency of today. This is clear evidence of interstellar trade in recent historical times. I do not believe it has ceased.

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:32 pm
by wackyman465
USD = united states dollar. I'm fairly sure that I live on earth...

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:00 am
by Zbond-Zbond
Ahruman wrote:
AppleWorks works fine under Leopard
I don't doubt you, just didn't have AppleWorks any more to install!
Once 10.3.9 re-installed, everything was fine.
Also, I now have a copy of AppleWorks obtained in the States.
Leopard was installed by AppleCentre, and came back with no AppleWorks. None of their display models would read any of my files (except spreadsheets). They did not re-install AppleWorks.

Intaglio will be the best option.. (?) (it didn't like opening ClarisWorks files, though)
Kaks wrote:
current version of eazyDraw will definitely import macDraw files
We haven't succeeded with this, either using free download or at reseller on either my hardware or theirs.

None of this bothers me now.
I've seen the octo-core MacPro :lol:
I can access files with Panther :roll:

HOWEVER it is very good to hear that installing some sort of Leopard won't blitz MacDraw. Thank-you for all interesting comments, which I do appreciate, and act upon. I am tempted to rehabilitate Leopard from coaster status and give it a go.

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:15 pm
by Wiggy
Commander McLane wrote:
Isn't there a list around somewhere with all cat names trademarked by Apple? From there it would be relatively easy to conclude the upcoming upgrade path.
According to Wikpedia:
"Apple has also registered "Lynx" and "Cougar" as trademarks, though these were allowed to lapse."

Don't forget the Ocelot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocelot

I'm also saving my pennies for OS X Tabby.

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:32 pm
by Cmdr James
Wiggy wrote:
"Apple has also registered "Lynx"
Is that for their retro text only OS

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:55 pm
by wackyman465
Naw it's for their special new competitor to the internet... Lots of ways to get from one site to another.

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:11 pm
by Cmdr James

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:15 pm
by zevans
Not sure which one of you missed the point there. :-)

(See "Legacy" section)

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:27 pm
by JensAyton
While my copy of Snow Leopard is spending its weekend at a post office depot (why release it on a Friday?) the release notes for the Snow Leopard development tools have been released, and as expected developing for 10.3.9 is not supported. There is no mention of using a previous version of Xcode with Snow Leopard (as you can with Leopard to develop for 10.2.8). I’ve asked for official clarification on this.

Even if using an old version of Xcode is supported, I’ll certainly be wanting to spend my time in the new one, so there’s also a question of how much trouble it’ll be to move a project between the two. There are also things that would be much easier to do if 10.3.9 is dropped, such as Sparkle automatic updates.

Bottom line: 10.3.9 support from now until MSNR is not a given.

Edit: the official answer is that it’ll probably kinda work if I avoid the bits that crash.

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:16 pm
by Zbond-Zbond
Given the poll results, 10.3.9 support seems redundant

edit: does that necessitate 10.6 for writeOXP attempt?

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:30 am
by JensAyton
Zbond-Zbond wrote:
edit: does that necessitate 10.6 for writeOXP attempt?
No.

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:06 am
by Telengo
Ahruman wrote:
While my copy of Snow Leopard is spending its weekend at a post office depot (why release it on a Friday?) .
You need to get your postie to work harder. :D My copy of SL turned up this morning. Just finished my upgrade.

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:08 pm
by Zbond-Zbond
:shock: Postmen? You have postmen? what a luxury

does anyone have any experience of GTX285 graphics card vs Nvidia FX4800/5800 workstation(s)?