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I think Wrath of Khan is to the Motion Picure as Aliens is to Alien...

Selezen wrote:

I think Wrath of Khan is to the Motion Picure as Aliens is to Alien...

Never under estimate the power of Ricardo Montalban's moobs. They enter the scene a clear half second before he does.

ClymAngus wrote:

Never under estimate the power of Ricardo Montalban's moobs. They enter the scene a clear half second before he does.

I had to google "moobs".... LOL!!!

I really do love the wanderings this thread has taken...

@DH - I always love to see a post where someone (who's usually new to the forum) says something like "Can we please get back on topic?".

<me chuckling> Yeah right, as if that's the way things are done on this forum...

JohnnyBoy wrote:

<me chuckling> Yeah right, as if that's the way things are done on this forum...

...and we are doing not too bad with the way we're doing things, don't we?

ClymAngus wrote:

Never under estimate the power of Ricardo Montalban's moobs. They enter the scene a clear half second before he does.

I got this DVD for Christmas, i must say i really enjoyed it loads, Mr. Spocks whirly space ship was ace and the guys who played Kirk and McCoy were really good i thought, funny to see Simon Pegg lumbered with the JarJar Binks character after all this rantings against this sort of thing in 'spaced'.

I didn't read the entire thread... just saw the first post (that is the one I am responding to)... I have the movie on Blu-RaY... definitely Non-Canonical.

JeffBTX wrote:

I didn't read the entire thread... just saw the first post (that is the one I am responding to)... I have the movie on Blu-RaY... definitely Non-Canonical.

@Griff - I too got it for Xmas on DVD (wouldn't have bought it for myself).

While it's not a bad movie it's not Star Trek - JJ did his usual trick of - I'll take the franchise but ignore all that has gone before and do what I want...

DaddyHoggy... the only thing I can THINK of is that they were playing with the "Alternate Universe" theme a bit... but if they were (there were SLIGHT implications) they didn't make it clear enough.

All in all not a BAD movie... just doesn't quite "fit".

(I like the Orion Cadet Girls)

JeffBTX wrote:

DaddyHoggy... the only thing I can THINK of is that they were playing with the "Alternate Universe" theme a bit... but if they were (there were SLIGHT implications) they didn't make it clear enough.

All in all not a BAD movie... just doesn't quite "fit".

(I like the Orion Cadet Girls)

This is precisely what JJ did - he made the bad guys ship jump back in time and intercepted the ship on which Kirk's father served and from that moment the Universe was JJ's sandpit and he started playing with it as he saw fit - while others have commended for "saving" the franchise - I just think "you lacked the imagination to work within the current framework and for that alone you should be ashamed."

DaddyHoggy wrote:

JeffBTX wrote:

DaddyHoggy... the only thing I can THINK of is that they were playing with the "Alternate Universe" theme a bit... but if they were (there were SLIGHT implications) they didn't make it clear enough.

All in all not a BAD movie... just doesn't quite "fit".

(I like the Orion Cadet Girls)

This is precisely what JJ did - he made the bad guys ship jump back in time and intercepted the ship on which Kirk's father served and from that moment the Universe was JJ's sandpit and he started playing with it as he saw fit - while others have commended for "saving" the franchise - I just think "you lacked the imagination to work within the current framework and for that alone you should be ashamed."

"Uhura: Would you look at that.
James T. Kirk: My friends, the great experiment... the Excelsior, ready for trial runs.
Hikaru Sulu: She's supposed to have transwarp drive.
Montgomery Scott: Aye. And if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon.
James T. Kirk: Come, come, Mr. Scott. Young minds, fresh ideas. Be tolerant. "

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Star_Trek_ ... _for_Spock

Merry Christmas and a happy new year everyone. AAAAnd back on topic.

Unfortunately he who owns the franchise picks the direction. Now when a franchise is young and the writer (or writers) are still alive then you can expect an over arching consistency (within reason, no one can remember everything). But, then some smart ass invented the reboot. Also known as the Bobby Ewing switchback.

This enables the owners to completely disregard any back story (and fan base) strip it all the way back to "base principles" and sell it to you all over again. Dr Who did it with the "time war", to be honest your lucky if they even bother to make it part of the story. James Bond never bothered. etc etc etc.

So this leads us to an unfortunate conclusion. The owners could dress the cast up as chickens and get them dancing the watusi, and all the ardent loyal fans would have to sit there and swallow it as "New canon". Is it any wonder people are resurrecting abandon ware or group designing new original sci-fi stories? Science fiction for the people by the people. It's a brave new world.

Watch it, sure. But investing too much time and effort on someone else's property? Might end as a case of throwing good money after bad.

So the Enterprise might get crewed by CHICKEN PEOPLE at some point?!

JeffBTX wrote:

So the Enterprise might get crewed by CHICKEN PEOPLE at some point?!

Well, when they will have exhausted all other ideas, they will HAVE TO do it in order to keep the franchise alive.