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Re: [WIP] Contextual Jukebox OXP
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:15 pm
by hiran
LittleBear wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:47 pm
According to the Wiki, the maximum file size that can be uploaded is 2 gig.
Is the expansion manager limited to 100 meg therefore as I'd assumed that it was just redirecting to the file on the wiki?
Very likely these limits are due to configuration.
I cannot imagine anyone would still be using a filesystem where the max filesize is 2 GB. More interesting is the total size of all the files as that's limited by the hosting contract. Someone's paying for that.
I also don't know about the in game expansions manager. OoliteStarter for sure does not introduce size limitations.
Re: [WIP] Contextual Jukebox OXP
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:03 pm
by LittleBear
@Wildblood.
Following the meltdown of the old site, the new method of putting OXZs on the Expansion Manager is now just to upload the file to the Wiki and as long as the file is properly set up with a manifest.plist then oolite.space automatically detects the file on the Wiki and adds the OXZ to the list on the Expansion Manager. This worked when I updated the Galactic Almanac OXZ a few months ago. Once I'd uploaded the OXZ to the wiki, I didn't have to do anything else; the new version auto-magically appeared on the Expansion Manager.
I'm I right in thinking therefore that as long as the file is not too big to upload to the Wiki (and contextual jukebox and povey planets would both be within the Wiki's file limit), if they were uploaded in .oxz format with manifest.plists then they would automatically be added to the Expansion Manager and Oolite Starter?
Re: [WIP] Contextual Jukebox OXP
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:21 pm
by hiran
LittleBear wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:03 pm
@Wildblood.
Following the meltdown of the old site, the new method of putting OXZs on the Expansion Manager is now just to upload the file to the Wiki and as long as the file is properly set up with a manifest.plist then oolite.space automatically detects the file on the Wiki and adds the OXZ to the list on the Expansion Manager. This worked when I updated the Galactic Almanac OXZ a few months ago. Once I'd uploaded the OXZ to the wiki, I didn't have to do anything else; the new version auto-magically appeared on the Expansion Manager.
I'm I right in thinking therefore that as long as the file is not too big to upload to the Wiki (and contextual jukebox and povey planets would both be within the Wiki's file limit), if they were uploaded in .oxz format with manifest.plists then they would automatically be added to the Expansion Manager and Oolite Starter?
I do not question your observation, but the conclusion is wrong. Just an OXZ uploaded to the wiki does not end up on the expansion manager. It is the same as uploading an OXZ to any other webserver on the internet.
So what do you need to do?
1) Make your OXP downloadable for anyone. That means you put it on the internet. The wiki is one possibility, as is Dropbox, Google Drive or your private webserver if you so wish. Once you uploaded the file, you also know how it can be downloaded: you have a download URL.
2) Add the download URL to the catalog. It needs to go in here:
https://github.com/OoliteProject/oolite ... onUrls.txt
To get the URL into that list (or remove a no longer valid URL), create an issue:
https://github.com/OoliteProject/oolite ... new/choose
But how does this explain what you saw?
The file on the wiki had existed before. It's URL was already part of the catalog. All you did was to overwrite the file with new content. For a moment users choosing the expansion would see the old entry but download the newer file. To catch such situations, the catalog is rebuilt on any change of the URL file and on a monthly base. And that is the reason why your changes were picked up by the catalog and later displayed by the website, the in-game expansion manager and OoliteStarter.
Re: [WIP] Contextual Jukebox OXP
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:59 am
by LittleBear
Ah, right I see! It was only because I was updating an existing OXZ already on the catalogue that it did it automatically.
However, if I was adding a new OXZ and added the download link to the catalogue, would it cause a problem if the file was over 100Meg ?
Re: [WIP] Contextual Jukebox OXP
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:20 pm
by hiran
LittleBear wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:59 am
However, if I was adding a new OXZ and added the download link to the catalogue, would it cause a problem if the file was over 100Meg ?
At some point it would. The bigger the file the more likely a download error could happen. Plus when generating the catalog all OXZs get downloaded which today sums up to roughly 5 GB. And the disk of the build server is for sure limited. But I never checked these limits - we should still have a few GBs to go before that.
Coming back to your question: there is no limitation on 100 MB. Even if you went to 200 I would not expect things to break.
So the catalog would generate well. And if it breaks let's learn and fix it.
Re: [WIP] Contextual Jukebox OXP
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:32 pm
by arquebus
If it is possible for the Contextual Jukebox to go on the Expansion Manager, then the only thing standing in the way is my attention span. I've got a lot of things going on and for some reason reading up on how to do the final steps of prep to make CJ ready and then upload it to the appropriate location is just beyond my capacity at the moment (and has been for a long time).
If someone can look at what I have in the OXZ package and tell me in words of 2 syllables or less exactly what I need to do to make it ready, that's step 1 down.
Re: [WIP] Contextual Jukebox OXP
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 6:20 pm
by hiran
arquebus wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:32 pm
If someone can look at what I have in the OXZ package and tell me in words of 2 syllables or less exactly what I need to do to make it ready, that's step 1 down.
I tested what is on the wiki and liked it.
And I know the missing steps for publishing. The only thing that keeps me from doing it is that I'd like to hear some opinions, or your approval.
Re: [WIP] Contextual Jukebox OXP
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 8:48 pm
by hiran
hiran wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2024 4:43 pm
I just tested the OXP from
https://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Conte ... ukebox_OXP
It ran fine on my installation, and it made playing a lot more interesting. Now I recall I had heard the music in Arquaebus' videos already.
+1 to push it to the expansions manager
Once in the expansions manager, we should think of which flavor to add this in, too.
Two comments:
The manifest should contain a link to the wiki page.
And if Library OXP is required, that dependency should also be placed in the manifest.
I am still convinced of this expansion. Checked again and it has a license that allows sharing. Rather than a reference I'd prefer to have a copy for the royalty free music. The dependency is already part of the manifest. So all I would add is a link to the wiki page like so:
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"information_url" = "https://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Contextual_Jukebox_OXP";
With that change in the manifest.plist just zip up this OXP directory and name the file as .oxz with the version number in it. Here is a Linux command:
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cd ContextualJukebox.oxp
zip -r ../ContextualJukebox-0.1.oxz *
Place that one in your dropbox and let me know the download URL. I'll take it from there.
Re: [WIP] Contextual Jukebox OXP
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 9:07 pm
by arquebus
hiran wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 8:48 pm
hiran wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2024 4:43 pm
I just tested the OXP from
https://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Conte ... ukebox_OXP
It ran fine on my installation, and it made playing a lot more interesting. Now I recall I had heard the music in Arquaebus' videos already.
+1 to push it to the expansions manager
Once in the expansions manager, we should think of which flavor to add this in, too.
Two comments:
The manifest should contain a link to the wiki page.
And if Library OXP is required, that dependency should also be placed in the manifest.
I am still convinced of this expansion. Checked again and it has a license that allows sharing. Rather than a reference I'd prefer to have a copy for the royalty free music. The dependency is already part of the manifest. So all I would add is a link to the wiki page like so:
Code: Select all
"information_url" = "https://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Contextual_Jukebox_OXP";
With that change in the manifest.plist just zip up this OXP directory and name the file as .oxz with the version number in it. Here is a Linux command:
Code: Select all
cd ContextualJukebox.oxp
zip -r ../ContextualJukebox-0.1.oxz *
Place that one in your dropbox and let me know the download URL. I'll take it from there.
Done! (Finally!)
The URL comes up as:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/zgl1blbw ... od82v&dl=0
I *think* the dl=0 at the end prevents it from downloading directly but I'm not sure how that all works.
Re: [WIP] Contextual Jukebox OXP
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:27 am
by hiran
I checked the download. Yes, an OXP is there. But it is packaged wrongly.
To not make this too much a hassle I repackaged it, uploaded to the Wiki (
https://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/File: ... ukebox.oxz)
and added it to the expansions manager: (
https://github.com/OoliteProject/oolite ... ls.txt#L18)
Edit: Meanwhile the catalog is rebuilt, which means both the in-game expansions manager and OoliteStarter will offer this for download.
Re: [WIP] Contextual Jukebox OXP
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 3:00 pm
by arquebus
Many thanks! I'm not surprised I zipped it wrong.
