Oolite Bulletins

I planned way more than that

cim wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:41 pm

Ha, I planned way more than that I just never got round to it.

Cody wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:15 pm

Does this not work with later versions of Oolite?

Cody wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:41 pm

Hmm... it's not coming up as an option when I launch Oolite (1.91). I've probably done something wrong. I'll try again later.

My SOTL hyperspace skills give my Oolite combat skills a good run for the money!

Cody wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:22 pm

Re-installed 1.91 and now it works - strange. <scratches head> Threw a few errors, but hey!

My SOTL hyperspace skills give my Oolite combat skills a good run for the money!

You on keyboard only or joystick, Cholly?

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:34 pm

Admittedly I never managed to play for too long before being turned inside-out when my witchspace journeys reached an excruciating finale...

cim wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:33 am

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:34 pm

Admittedly I never managed to play for too long before being turned inside-out when my witchspace journeys reached an excruciating finale...

The idea was you'd need to refit a bit - carry more energy cells and fuel for mapping some hyperspace routes, then switch to scanners to survey the systems.

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 6:23 pm

Actually, unless it goes against Cim's design concept, what the Altmap scenario really needs is some version of Spara's Market Observer built in (as one can't add other oxp's). Then one has a chance to keep tabs on 40 different commodities - and one can see if one is selling at a profit or a loss. There is no record of what you bought anything at - and keeping tabs on 40 different commodities across 256 systems - hahaha!

cim wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:41 pm

Ha, I planned way more than that I just never got round to it.

• The longer-term idea was that your home base would only have a limited amount of hyperspace fuel - large, but not infinite.
• You'd then need to locate and mine particular materials from asteroids which could be synthesised into fuel back at the home base.
• While doing that you'd also be picking up other raw materials, which would let your home build additional equipment
• First basic one would be a mining drone which attached to an asteroid and started doing (slow!) automated mining of it. Build a few of those and you can start to get minerals in a bit faster. You'd have to give up a lot of your storage space to drag it out there in the first place, of course.
• That would unlock additional deployable modules - a basic fuel storage depot, which would let you move fuel out from the base ship, and then run bigger expeditions from there - and then later a portable fuel refinery which would mean you didn't have to transport mined materials all the way back to base to get more fuel
• Probably then another sort of drone at some point which would pick up gas/liquid elements from planets for you, which would then extend the range of things your base could construct ... as well as resupply oxygen on the base ship, and other large-but-not-infinite consumables
• As well as modules for you, also goals to supply materials to repairs on the base ship
• Eventually, then a long-term goal to repair the base ship entirely (including its hyperdrive), and gradually move it across the chart to one of the habitable planets you found while exploring for the rest of this. (And then you've "won" but obviously you can keep exploring the rest of the map, with the benefit that you no longer need to keep dragging oxygen and water and minerals to your base)

No objection in principle to what there is being put in the manager, maybe someone else will finish it off / take it in another direction someday.

But ... one reason I didn't put it in the manager is that Exploration depends on Loader, so if you install Exploration, you get the Loader OXP too. Loader can't depend on Exploration, because if it did, Exploration won't load in the core scenario, and then Loader won't load because Exploration isn't there, and then you can't actually start the scenario game. But that means when you're installing from the manager, if you install Loader it can't then auto-install Exploration ... and then if you try to run Loader it'll probably go wrong with an entirely unhelpful error message

The manager ideally needs a new relationship type adding to handle that sort of "install-time but not run-time" dependency, but I never got round to that either.

You might be able to make this clear enough with descriptions.