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Re: How the Energy Bomb works theory...
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:46 pm
by maik
I would actually prefer to keep the energy bomb, just because it is part of the Elite legacy. It should indeed behave exactly as it did there and thus not be as strong as it now.
Maybe it could be available only in strict mode (which I regard as "as true to Elite as possible"), so that Oolite can progress beyond its legacy but still honor it.
Re: How the Energy Bomb works theory...
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:56 pm
by RyanHoots
Maybe we need an Oolite fork that stays truer to Elite...
Re: How the Energy Bomb works theory...
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:19 pm
by maik
I hope not!
Re: How the Energy Bomb works theory...
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:26 pm
by Selezen
RyanHoots wrote:Maybe we need an Oolite fork that stays truer to Elite...
Isn't that what strict mode is?
Re: How the Energy Bomb works theory...
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:29 pm
by RyanHoots
Selezen wrote:RyanHoots wrote:Maybe we need an Oolite fork that stays truer to Elite...
Isn't that what strict mode is?
Exactly. But if the e-bomb is removed from the core game, it won't be. Maybe the bomb should be in strict mode only, instead of completely removed.
Re: How the Energy Bomb works theory...
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:31 pm
by Selezen
RyanHoots wrote:Selezen wrote:RyanHoots wrote:Maybe we need an Oolite fork that stays truer to Elite...
Isn't that what strict mode is?
Exactly. But if the e-bomb is removed from the core game, it won't be. Maybe the bomb should be in strict mode only, instead of completely removed.
Seconded. Although I would say allow it to be added back in as an OXP so that those who want it can have it.
Re: How the Energy Bomb works theory...
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:33 pm
by RyanHoots
Selezen wrote:
Seconded. Although I would say allow it to be added back in as an OXP so that those who want it can have it.
Like, in some file somewhere:
Re: How the Energy Bomb works theory...
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:36 pm
by Selezen
Exactly.
Re: How the Energy Bomb works theory...
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:39 pm
by Thargoid
I thought that was the plan all along (at least the strict mode only bit)?
Re: How the Energy Bomb works theory...
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:52 pm
by another_commander
Guys, it's already doable. Have a look at the energy bomb entry in your core equipment.plist and you will see that just changing the strict_mode_only = false; to strict_mode_only = true; you can disable the bomb as you see fit in the main game.
Re: How the Energy Bomb works theory...
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:59 pm
by RyanHoots
another_commander wrote:Guys, it's already doable. Have a look at the energy bomb entry in your core equipment.plist and you will see that just changing the strict_mode_only = false; to strict_mode_only = true; you can disable the bomb as you see fit in the main game.
Doing it now. Thanks, commander.
Re: How the Energy Bomb works theory...
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:03 pm
by maik
another_commander wrote:Guys, it's already doable. Have a look at the energy bomb entry in your core equipment.plist and you will see that just changing the strict_mode_only = false; to strict_mode_only = true; you can disable the bomb as you see fit in the main game.
Nice! Then why does the energy bomb need to be removed for MNST? Wouldn't it be sufficient to just set the default to true instead of false?
Re: How the Energy Bomb works theory...
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:04 pm
by another_commander
maik wrote:another_commander wrote:Guys, it's already doable. Have a look at the energy bomb entry in your core equipment.plist and you will see that just changing the strict_mode_only = false; to strict_mode_only = true; you can disable the bomb as you see fit in the main game.
Nice! Then why does the energy bomb need to be removed for MNST? Wouldn't it be sufficient to just set the default to true instead of false?
Precisely. It was originally planned to be removed completely, then we got a big wave of resistance over this and finally settled with this solution. Whenever we would want to remove the bomb from the game, we only need to change that one line.
Re: How the Energy Bomb works theory...
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:55 pm
by CommonSenseOTB
If someone wanted to have a one-shot hyperjump device activated by the same button as the energy bomb as a replacement for the energy bomb, how would they do it?
Re: How the Energy Bomb works theory...
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:58 pm
by Switeck
What's the E-bomb's damage amount? 1000 damage?
How can I reduce the damage of the E-bomb back to C64 Elite proportions?