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Re: Oolite Wiki
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:19 pm
by hiran
I like that thinking and the page.
Re: Oolite Wiki
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:36 pm
by Cholmondely
hiran wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:16 pm
Specialized bus interface components connect the 80286 local bus to both the buffered local bus and the system bus. These interface components process the signals that come from the 80286 local bus and generate appropriate signals for use on the buffered local bus or the public system bus.
Well, I can parse it. That's about it. It sounds very esoterical to me: Zen and the art of bus conducting? Not at all nice, simple and straightforwards like dear old Immanuel's Critique, Iamblichus' Treatise on the Theology of Arithmetic or anything like that!
Re: Oolite Wiki
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:36 pm
by Cholmondely
Cholmondely wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:36 pm
hiran wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:16 pm
Specialized bus interface components connect the 80286 local bus to both the buffered local bus and the system bus. These interface components process the signals that come from the 80286 local bus and generate appropriate signals for use on the buffered local bus or the public system bus.
Well, I can parse it. That's about it. It sounds very esoterical to me: Zen and the art of bus conducting? Not at all nice, simple and straightforwards like dear old Immanuel's Critique, Iamblichus' Treatise on the Theology of Arithmetic or anything like that! ...and I never realised that bus numbers could be so long...
Re: Oolite Wiki
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:16 pm
by hiran
To whomever is interested in how I created the index of artefacts:
I just published the source code of the project at
https://github.com/HiranChaudhuri/OoliteAddonScanner
If the web project (
https://github.com/HiranChaudhuri/OoliteOxpRepository) starts flying, the scanner may very well be assimilated and no longer necessary as separate, manually-run command line application.
Re: Oolite Wiki
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:07 pm
by Cholmondely
hiran wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:16 pm
I'd love to respond, but all this is well over my poor head!
Re: Oolite Wiki
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:08 pm
by Cholmondely
ISSUE with wiki
the page:
http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Catego ... evelopment has a number of links on it which seem alive but do not respond when clicked on!
Does anybody understand what is going on?
Re: Oolite Wiki
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:46 pm
by hiran
Cholmondely wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:07 pm
hiran wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:16 pm
I'd love to respond, but all this is well over my poor head!
True, this last post is of technical nature.
But the problem that needs to be resolved is not too technical actually.
All wiki maintainers and expansion authors could actually decide whether the stuff I built is useful and shall be utilized. That would mean a central installation on the internet somehwere - it is not intended for everybody to operate his own stuff. Can not someone take a decision, or should there be a voting? How are decisions taken in this community?
Once the decision is taken it is just a matter of implementation. This is a technical topic, and I could resolve that actually with the owners of the currently used three websites. Who is running those (homepage, wiki and forum) today?
Re: Oolite Wiki
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:57 pm
by montana05
The pages were created by winston in 2006. Most likely nowadays irrelevant and therefore could be deleted. However, since he is the wiki-ueber-master better check with him or Maik first.
Re: Oolite Wiki
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:02 pm
by Cody
hiran wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:46 pmWho is running those (homepage, wiki and forum) today?
Winston owns alioth.net, and has moved on; Giles owns aegidian.org, and has moved on; and I 'think' Jens owns oolite.org, and has moved on.
Re: Oolite Wiki
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:15 pm
by hiran
Cody wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:02 pm
hiran wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:46 pmWho is running those (homepage, wiki and forum) today?
Winston owns alioth.net, and has moved on; Giles owns aegidian.org, and has moved on; and I 'think' Jens owns oolite.org, and has moved on.
They moved on but still own the domain? Who is actively hosting the site? Who provides support? Is there noone today?
Re: Oolite Wiki
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:28 pm
by montana05
hiran wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:15 pm
Cody wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:02 pm
hiran wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:46 pmWho is running those (homepage, wiki and forum) today?
Winston owns alioth.net, and has moved on; Giles owns aegidian.org, and has moved on; and I 'think' Jens owns oolite.org, and has moved on.
They moved on but still own the domain? Who is actively hosting the site? Who provides support? Is there noone today?
Maybe they still own the domains because they were members of the original team building Oolite. Giles is the founder of this game. I mentioned it before already, this is a platform with coming and going volunteers, not a company where you could put rules and regulations for everything.
Regarding Cholmondely's mail, good luck with telling the owner what he could or not could put on his server.
Re: Oolite Wiki
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:23 pm
by Cholmondely
Cody wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:02 pm
hiran wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:46 pmWho is running those (homepage, wiki and forum) today?
Winston owns alioth.net, and has moved on; Giles owns aegidian.org, and has moved on; and I 'think' Jens owns oolite.org, and has moved on.
No! NO!!
NO!!! ... Heresy!
St Giles transcended the Eight in the
Great Occultation. The Holy Jens, his Vicar of The Eight, Co-ordinator of the Celestial Codes of Creation likewise enjoyed the transcendence of the Maximal Occultation.
The nature of the Maximal Occultation being what it is, the transcendence of entities does not imply the transcendence of their wallets (ugly, vulgar, morbid & material manifestations), which remain within the mundane space of The Eight to fund the endeavors of the now-occultated.
What transpired with Winston is of course quite different. The quiescence of the Dismal Prophet on this point lends substance to the suspicions that the disappearance of Winston is due to the intervention of the dreaded Witchspace Lobster. Put quite simply, the Wondrous Winston was ingested and then digested by the WL. Unlike the ingestion and digestion of a homespace lobster which involves the simultaneous digestion of the contents of one's wallet, the ingestion & digestion of the WW by the WL did not affect the contents of the wallet, which remained to fund the Elite/Oolite Wikipedia.
It's all quite simple, really!
Re: Oolite Wiki
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:18 pm
by hiran
montana05 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:28 pm
hiran wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:15 pm
Cody wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:02 pm
Winston owns alioth.net, and has moved on; Giles owns aegidian.org, and has moved on; and I 'think' Jens owns oolite.org, and has moved on.
They moved on but still own the domain? Who is actively hosting the site? Who provides support? Is there noone today?
Maybe they still own the domains because they were members of the original team building Oolite. Giles is the founder of this game. I mentioned it before already, this is a platform with coming and going volunteers, not a company where you could put rules and regulations for everything.
Regarding Cholmondely's mail, good luck with telling the owner what he could or not could put on his server.
Well, maybe we do not have to tell them what to do or what not to.
We might try to reach out and ask them kindly whether we could move on their baby and let it experience some wonderful future. If the anwer is yes, we could then say that this may require some changes on admin level and maybe they choose someone to perform this on their behalf. It would not require them to come back other than this one step.
So we have identified three persons. Does someone have contact details to reach out? (do not share them in public, that is personally identifyable data that these individuals may not want to be published).
Re: Oolite Wiki
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:28 pm
by hiran
hiran wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:08 pm
Hmmm, maybe we still need a good definition what we want to achieve.
From my POV, I am still searching for a good documentation where I can lookup stuff when playing the game. So my goal would be to go for a complete documentation set. However that is a lot of work, now that I see the amount of artefacts myself.
How about taking it in phases? (which would not mean we must not work on stuff of the other phases, but we could focus our attention to fewer issues):
Phase 1: All expansions
Phase 2: All player playable ships
Phase 3: All visible equipment
Phase 4: Complete the missing parts
So I can say we almost reached phase 1. All but 18 expansions have their wiki pages up. Content not verified, but that can be edited by almost any user if discrepancies are found.
I will try to finish the missing 18, but it seems information for those needs to be collected and put up.
@Cholmondeley, could you maybe have an eye over my actions?
Re: Oolite Wiki
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:22 pm
by cbr
All but 18 expansions have their wiki pages up
impressive!