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Re: Brexit vote, the zombie apocalypse and other fallout.
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 5:07 pm
by UK_Eliter
On Labour's promise of more bank holidays being 'witless': the Labour manifesto, so far as it is visible at present, in human and not reckless, which is more than can be said for the Conversative's avowed and ideas and even more so for their actual practices; offering more bank holidays is a small, nondangerous concession to getting people to vote for the saner, more decent alternative. No?
Re: Brexit vote, the zombie apocalypse and other fallout.
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 5:35 pm
by Smivs
When polled (disclaimers apply of course) most people seem to like the Labour policies. Whether that is enough to make them vote that way is a different matter entirely.
Re: Brexit vote, the zombie apocalypse and other fallout.
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 5:39 pm
by Disembodied
UK_Eliter wrote:On Labour's promise of more bank holidays being 'witless': the Labour manifesto, so far as it is visible at present, in human and not reckless, which is more than can be said for the Conversative's avowed and ideas and even more so for their actual practices; offering more bank holidays is a small, nondangerous concession to getting people to vote for the saner, more decent alternative. No?
The Bank Holiday idea is a throwback to Gordon Brown's ham-fisted attempt to celebrate Britishness by giving us all a jolly on the various patron saints' days, as if any of us cared. It's a trivial and throwaway piece of nonsense which will hopefully get thrown away: anyone who votes for a political party because they fancy an extra Monday off shouldn't really be allowed to choose a TV channel, let alone a government. I don't think it'll have a measurable effect on the election, and was probably picked out by the right-wing press in order to make Labour look bereft of ideas.
Labour's published manifesto, on the other hand, is in the main a very sensible series of policies which this country is in desperate need of, if anything is to be saved from the wreckage of casino capitalism and cronyism which has been blighting it since 1979. The panicky screeching of the far-right, billionaire-owned media is clear evidence that these ideas are sorely needed. Whether they are too little, too late, and whether we ever get a chance to find out before we vanish down the economic plughole, is another matter entirely, but for the moment we can at least hope.
One small reminder of the limits of the private sector - and especially, why the private sector should never be allowed to own or control any form of basic infrastructure or any sort of network - can be found in this article on why the UK's broadband sucks:
http://www.techradar.com/news/world-of- ... 90-1224784
Re: Brexit vote, the zombie apocalypse and other fallout.
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:08 am
by Cody
Oh dear!
Re: Brexit vote, the zombie apocalypse and other fallout.
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:50 am
by Disembodied
Ahhh, yes … strong and stable! A Tory government propped up by the swivel-eyed loons of the DUP - and even then, that won't be enough to give them a majority on English matters, because "English Votes for English Laws" mean that May's new platoon of Scottish Tory MPs (gained in large part by Ruth the Mooth banging on a Lambeg drum) don't get a vote on anything that's devolved - like e.g. health or education.
Edited to add: actually, I'm wrong: EVEL means that the Tories have a free hand in England and Wales. My condolences. If it's any consolation, as the Tories continue to hack away at public spending on education and the NHS in England and Wales, the Barnett formula means that Scotland's budget will be decreased too - even though Scottish MPs are now blocked from voting on these issues at Westminster.
Re: Brexit vote, the zombie apocalypse and other fallout.
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:35 am
by Smivs
Yeah, so much for a 'coalition of chaos' - it looks like we might get a coalition of crassness. I give it two weeks max.
Re: Brexit vote, the zombie apocalypse and other fallout.
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:24 pm
by Cody
It was the Russians wot did it! When that electric storm hit last night, I knew something was up.
Re: Brexit vote, the zombie apocalypse and other fallout.
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:54 pm
by Disembodied
I think we have to give some credit to
Kerrang!, too:
http://www.kerrang.com/48921/k1674-take-power-back/
Re: Brexit vote, the zombie apocalypse and other fallout.
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:34 pm
by Alex
Disembodied wrote: ↑Sat May 13, 2017 5:39 pm
UK_Eliter wrote:: anyone who votes for a political party because they fancy an extra Monday off shouldn't really be allowed to choose a TV channel, let alone a government.
One small reminder of the limits of the private sector - and especially, why the private sector should never be allowed to own or control any form of basic infrastructure or any sort of network - can be found in this article on why the UK's broadband sucks:
http://www.techradar.com/news/world-of- ... 90-1224784
Let me get my 2 bobs worth;
1st bob. Yes I want extra Mondays to me and half day Fridays thank you very much. You are aware that all the Gov parties are basically the same. Ever noticed any real difference regarding basic pay grade life in the last 50 years? And do you really think what's on TV is not government controlled? Are you still paying for a TV license? How much is that now?
2nd bob. Yes. Fully agree. No private sector should be allowed to control fundamental infrastructure. Also Government should be held far more responsible on how they are ran.
If you think the UK's broadband sucks..
Over here we are still working on getting over 20Mb/s. Yes that is bits not Bytes. There is a factor of 8 between them. Yes our illustrious government will say it's much higher, but then who is using the home edition? Twice the price half the speed.
Re: Brexit vote, the zombie apocalypse and other fallout.
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:48 pm
by Cody
What a shambles - on both sides of the pond! Meanwhile, across la Manche, a new emperor arises!
Re: Brexit vote, the zombie apocalypse and other fallout.
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:03 pm
by UK_Eliter
Alex wrote:
You are aware that all the Gov parties are basically the same. Ever noticed any real difference regarding basic pay grade life in the last 50 years?
I'm confident that, given with the public sector pay cap, and stagnating wages elsewhere in the economy, as well as different taxation policies, some people here will be able to answer 'yes'.
Re: Brexit vote, the zombie apocalypse and other fallout.
Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:58 pm
by Disembodied
Liam Fox: MPs should wear ties to promote British tie-makers post-Brexit
Hurrah! Another leg for the UK economy to stand on, to balance the global titans manufacturing Britain's
innovative jams. All we need to do now is find some way to monetise delusional right-wing freaks, and we'll be fine.
Re: Brexit vote, the zombie apocalypse and other fallout.
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:08 am
by ClymAngus
This thread has aged like a fine wine......
Re: Brexit vote, the zombie apocalypse and other fallout.
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:51 pm
by Rxke
At least you guys now have your NHS fully funded again!
Right?...
I mean, wasn't that...
Re: Brexit vote, the zombie apocalypse and other fallout.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:04 am
by Wildeblood
Rxke wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:51 pm
At least you guys now have your NHS fully funded again!
A particularly pernicious aspect of the Labour party is its international nature. Once an idea has proven to be unworkable, unsustainable, or to cause more harm than good, they export it all over the empire to cause as much harm, chaos and suffering worldwide as they possibly can.
Having demonstrated that something like the NHS will inevitably bankrupt a government, they've saddled Australia with the even more unsustainable NDIS, which is having the same effect here.