Oolite Bulletins

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 2:40 pm

hiran wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:09 pm

Looking at the fact that the sites for forum and wiki still show the old icon and that we do not have admin access to change them,
I think of possibilities to wrap them.

Might it be better not to?
[...]
I can now finally distinguish between Oolite.space and the other two!

I do not mind taking an educated decision.

Slight issue in the website: The news item from April 10 on the right hand side of the page which announces the new nightly builds points to https://github.com/OoliteProject/oolite ... tag/latest. This link is now void, as it has not been updated since October 15th. I think the news item should be edited to simply point to https://github.com/OoliteProject/oolite/releases.

The exact same change should be made to the Download page, Nightly Builds section.

New Issue:

we now have three OXPs on the oolite.space expansions table which were supposedly updated in 1970!

Since Oolite only dates back to 2003...

1970 01 01? Isn't that something to do with Unix time?

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:54 am

New Issue:

we now have three OXPs on the oolite.space expansions table which were supposedly updated in 1970!

Since Oolite only dates back to 2003...

That field is labelled 'updated' and internally is the 'upload date'. This in general can be obtained on the web by looking at the 'last modified' header for the download url.

The servers hosting these three expansions do not transmit that header. Therefore the upload date is unknown but someone decided to display 'unknown' by the unix epoch which is 01. jan 1970.

Hi,
Is there a way to load extensions list on Mac version 1.90?
What file you need to edit to point app to new url (addons.oolite.space/api/1.0/overview)?
Sam

nepula wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:00 am

Hi,
Is there a way to load extensions list on Mac version 1.90?
What file you need to edit to point app to new url (addons.oolite.space/api/1.0/overview)?
Sam

Greetings and Salutations!

Welcome to the merry throng!

There's two threads here
Simpler: Expansion pack download still failing - ah . . with Mac-relevant gubbins at the bottom. You will need X-code loaded...
Complex: Enabling Expansions on MacOS with 1.90 - but with simple alternative at the top

And there is Hiran's alternative - Oolite Starter (advertised on the first thread, and also on Oolite.space)

New problem!

This is from Balisongdalo who has been locked out of our BB

He wants to have a stab at Phkb's Hermitage OXP which needs Smugglers.oxp, but:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Oolite/comments/18ozg3y/discord_channel/ wrote:

My problem is that I cannot activate hermitage oxp, because on the oolite title screen it asked for Smugglers The Galactic Underworld but I've already installed it via the Oolite Starter program.

I've done a manual oxp of Smugglers on the add-on folder but same result as it asks for smugglers on the title.

I made sure I have no existing oxp conflicts on the oolite starter app. I've also used the oolite oxp manager with the work around method from the forum, but the game crashed for me twice after installing many oxp's.

Reference:

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:45 am

Balisongdalo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:05 pm

I added your oolite page on my fb, nice way to raise awareness of this oustanding space game!

This chap is trying to get back on but is failing dismally.

See here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Oolite/comment ... d_channel/

Can we do anything to help him?

2 points.

Youtube Videos
YouTube have started removing videos linked to Oolite.org (see https://www.reddit.com/r/Oolite/comment ... rg_domain/)


Oolite.space "Expansion Packs" page
The sorting mechanism on Oolite.space is giving very peculiar results on my AppleMac - a partial sort with associated gobbets abandoned hither and thither.

And there are still three 1970 dates of addition to the Expansions Manager.

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:14 pm

2 points.

Youtube Videos
YouTube have started removing videos linked to Oolite.org (see https://www.reddit.com/r/Oolite/comment ... rg_domain/)


Oolite.space "Expansion Packs" page
The sorting mechanism on Oolite.space is giving very peculiar results on my AppleMac - a partial sort with associated gobbets abandoned hither and thither.

And there are still three 1970 dates of addition to the Expansions Manager.

AFAIK they are sorted by publishing date.
If you go to the end of the table and click 'All' you see all the expansions. Scrolling down again you can see three expansions that are claimed to be published at the start of the epoch.

The reason behind is that the publishing date is taken as the last-modified date delivered by the server together with some specific expansion. This ensures that even removing, then uploading the same file again can be detected as fresh publishing event. The disadvantage is that two servers do not deliver such a timestamp at all, and thus all three expansions provided by the two servers are treated to have a "null" publishing date (see NULL).

For reasons unknown to me the website treats a NULL like a 0 (zero), which is then translated to zero seconds after the epoch and that date is visualized.

hiran wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:06 pm

For reasons unknown to me the website treats a NULL like a 0 (zero), which is then translated to zero seconds after the epoch and that date is visualized.

better write "unknown"? )

timer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:12 pm

hiran wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:06 pm

For reasons unknown to me the website treats a NULL like a 0 (zero), which is then translated to zero seconds after the epoch and that date is visualized.

better write "unknown"? )

Do not change the sort order, but leave the field empty.

hiran wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 5:18 pm

timer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:12 pm

hiran wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:06 pm

For reasons unknown to me the website treats a NULL like a 0 (zero), which is then translated to zero seconds after the epoch and that date is visualized.

better write "unknown"? )

Do not change the sort order, but leave the field empty.

This is hopefully a one-time problem.

How about just correcting some of the problems highlighted on the https://ooliteproject.github.io/oolite- ... index.html and then re-uploading?



But the other problem seems much greater, destroying the functionality of the ordering of the page, making it more difficult to find all of timer's OXPs, or all of the Ambience OXPs or to put things reliably in alphabetical order.

Is this ordering business only a problem for my AppleMac?

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:03 pm

But the other problem seems much greater, destroying the functionality of the ordering of the page, making it more difficult to find all of timer's OXPs, or all of the Ambience OXPs or to put things reliably in alphabetical order.

Is this ordering business only a problem for my AppleMac?

No, it's not just you. Only the default, publication date, sorting works properly. Clicking on the other column headers produces nonsense.

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:03 pm

hiran wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 5:18 pm

Do not change the sort order, but leave the field empty.

How about just correcting some of the problems highlighted on the https://ooliteproject.github.io/oolite- ... index.html and then re-uploading?

Such things cannot be fixed on that side. OoliteAddonScanner creates raw file (data only) and pushes that into the website. This data is formatted, sorted and displayed in the user's browser. The formatting and sorting code is contained in some javascript file as part of the website.

If someone wants to take a look, it must be somewhere in here:
https://github.com/OoliteProject/oolite ... nly-static