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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:24 am
by Captain Hesperus
Cmdr. Maegil wrote:
Crazy insane stuff
Dammit, I was reading the new Abridged Edition. That copy is full of omissions.....:wink: I wonder what Giles would think if he knew I was writing a book of scriptue based on him.
Cmdr. Maegil wrote:
Look! Up there, is that a pink Boa?
Is it feathery? Or is it the Trading Ship Pricilla, Queen of Witchspace?

Captain Hesperus

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:08 pm
by Cmdr. Maegil
Captain Hesperus wrote:
Cmdr. Maegil wrote:
Look! Up there, is that a pink Boa?
Is it feathery? Or is it the Trading Ship Pricilla, Queen of Witchspace?
You didn't get the pun's second (or rather, first) reference... I was talking about ArcElite's infamous pink Boas - or didn't you know that "Burch Industries on Birerea will respray any Boa for free"?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:30 pm
by drdenim
Cmdr. Maegil wrote:
"Burch Industries on Birerea will respray any Boa for free"?
even in primer black?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:37 am
by Killer Instinct
More likely, I think they would use captured dredgers or even souped up Hoopys.

Ah the perfect reply! Add in the whichspace therory of mine subtle as it was and we have a working idea for a Pirate Mother Ship OXP.

PIRATE mothership

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:47 am
by Arexack_Heretic
ahh...the pirate BigRig revisited....

Still a speck in the eye of shipdesigners. ;)

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:52 am
by Commander McLane
Why not a Leviathan instead of a Dredger? I mean, there has already one changed hands to Renegades. Why not another one? Or at least a copy of its design?

And the Pirate Mother Ship could start to show up after completion of Military, which has the other advantage of making sure that the player has enough kills to have the chance of surviving an encounter with it.

As for a place to make some good deals with pirates (but only if you're a criminal yourself), there are some Renegade Stations in high-TL Anarchies in the final version of Anarchies.oxp. Basically those are pirate mother-ships, they just don't move, of course.

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:21 am
by julyy
A pirate mother ship would not last very long. We pirates are always nervous on the trigger. This thing would be destroyed and scooped very soon.

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:24 am
by TGHC
julyy wrote:
A pirate mother ship would not last very long. We pirates are always nervous on the trigger. This thing would be destroyed and scooped very soon.
Not necessarily, I would expect it to have almost impenetrable defences, in the same sort of way that American aircraft carriers do.

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:29 am
by julyy
Best defence of mine is my rear gun. :) Why should I dock on a mothership, were I cant save the game, and have the same boring trade options as everywhere? I would destroy it and get the bounty.

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:33 am
by Commander McLane
Okay with me, but just your rear gun would surely not be enough to do the job.

And don't forget, it's not just the same trading options only, but there should be a couple of missions available as well.

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:39 am
by julyy
Theres nothing my guns couldn't do. :)

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:04 pm
by Arexack_Heretic
I think you could apply a tradegoods 'mask' to make many goods unavailable or available cheaply and have illegal goods for sale at low prices.
Booze and luxuries should have a nice high price as pirates and their harlots alike like to squander their loot hard-earned paychecks on things that supply instant grattification.

A highly volatile market would suit best, as the available stock would depend on what has been 'scavenged'. Prices for available goods should always be fairly low, as they are from highly suspect sources.

Possibly a fence-risk can be scripted.
Triggered when you deal with a piratebarge, and checked+reset when you dock at a Galcoop mainstation. If you fail the %check, you get fined for trafficking in stolen goods.
Check may take into account player-legal-status and system-government-type.

Is there any way to querry the cargo_carried of the player_entity?

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/** Docked at mainstation: check whether player has taken on goods in a piratbase recently. Chances of cargomanifest check depend on system society. Severity of penaly depends on size of cargo discrepancy. Reset variable regardless of fine or not. /**
{
	"Smuggling_Stolen_Cargo" = (
		{
			conditions = ("status_string equal STATUS_DOCKED", "dockedAtMainStation_bool equals true");
			do = ( 
				{
					conditions = ("mission_fence greaterthan 0"); 
					do = (
						{
							conditions = ("systemGovernment_string equals Anarchy");
							do = ("reset: mission_fence");
							else = (
								"set: local_smugglingbust 25",
								"add: local_smugglingbust [systemGovernment_number]",
								"add: local_smugglingbust [systemEconomy_number]",
								"add: local_smugglingbust [systemTechLevel_number]",
								"subtract: local_smugglingbust [d100_number]",
									{
										conditions = (local_fencebust greaterthan 0); 
										do = ( 
											{
												conditions = ("[mission_fence] lessthan 11");
												do = ("set: local_fence_fine [legalStatus_number]", "add: local_fence_fine 10");
												conditions = ("[mission_fence] lessthan 101");
												do = ("set: local_fence_fine [legalStatus_number]", "add: local_fence_fine 100");
												conditions = ("[mission_fence] greaterthan 100");
												do = ("set: local_fence_fine [legalStatus_number]", "add: local_fence_fine 250");
											},
											"setLegalStatus: [local_fence_fine]"	); 
									};
							); 
						};
					); 
				}, 
				"reset: mission_fence");
		};
		**/ When docked at a pirate base, check cargo. Possible to cheat if cargotonnage remains equal. /**
		**/ enter piratebase: /**
		{
			conditions = ("local_goods equal UNDEFINED", "status_string equal STATUS_DOCKED", "dockedStationName_string equal piratebase");
			do = ("set: local_goods [i][cargo_carried][/i]");
		};
		**/ leave piratebase: /**
		{
			conditions = ("status_string equal STATUS_LAUNCHING");
			do = ( 
				{
					conditions = ("local_goods equal UNDEFINED"); **/ Only defined if a piratebase /**
					do =(); 
					else = ("subtract: local_goods [[i]cargo_carried[/i]]", 
						{
					 		conditions = ("local_goods lessthan 0"); 
					 		do = (
						 		{
							 		conditions = ("mission_fence equal UNDEFINED");
									do = ("set: mission_fence [local_goods]");
									else = ("add: mission_fence [local_goods]");
					 			},
					 			"reset: local_goods"
					 		);
						}; 
					);
				};
			);
		}
	);
};

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:45 am
by Phrostbyte
A pirate carrier should look like an enourmous jolly roger, a grinning skull spitting pirate ships from a docking bay in its mouth, twin plasma turrets in its glowing eyes, and a pair of thrusters behind each of the four knobby ends of the crossed bones. Of course, you'd have to make it say "Run, coward!" and "Beware, I hunger," like that video game.... SINISTAR. Hmmm.... (downloads Wings3D, refreshes self on tutorials).