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The distance in model coordinates will be multiplied by the scale factor... in your case, 2m in the model coordinates will be 3m in "oolite world" coordinates
For the Gecko, tried 2 (great), then 1 (also fine). +1 I guess is more accurate (?) so shall keep that. Thanks again for your help.dybal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:30 amI usually offset at the y axis (that's the second number), the smallest amount that gives you enough paralaxe to see the beam, but not enough to make you have to put the cross-hairs high on the target to hit... try 2 (depends if you are scaling the model in the shipdata), and I prefer to have my viewpoint above the gun (yours are below the centreline, there are plenty of negative numbers)
Viewpoint 1m over the gun (after the model scale factor) means that if you put the crosshairs in the center of the enemy, you will hit 1m below the center... the enemy dimension you aligned with your ship Y axis (by rolling) would have to be less than 2m for you to miss.Reval wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:32 amFor the Gecko, tried 2 (great), then 1 (also fine). +1 I guess is more accurate (?) so shall keep that. Thanks again for your help.dybal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:30 amI usually offset at the y axis (that's the second number), the smallest amount that gives you enough paralaxe to see the beam, but not enough to make you have to put the cross-hairs high on the target to hit... try 2 (depends if you are scaling the model in the shipdata), and I prefer to have my viewpoint above the gun (yours are below the centreline, there are plenty of negative numbers)
Edit: I discovered setting the y value to 1.0 right across the board (all ships) gives spectacularly accurate results with the lasers. Been popping tins of Spam left right and centre
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model_scale_factor = 2.0;
view_position_forward = "-0.5 0 50.0"; //orig
weapon_position_forward = "-0.5 -12.85 38.0"; //orig
Reference: OXP HowtoOXP Verifier
Oolite has what amounts to a spell checker for shipdata.plist and other some plists, called the OXP verifier. The verifier detects unknown keys or wrong use of keys etc. It can currently only be invoked from the command line.
On Windows or Linux: Code: oolite.app/oolite --verify-oxp <path to OXP>
On Mac OS X: Code: Oolite.app/Contents/MacOS/Oolite --verify-oxp <path to OXP>
Most mac users will not be familiar to using the command line. Look inside your application folder for a utilities folder. Inside that you will find a program called terminal. Run it to open a terminal window. Now drop the oolite application on that window. That will generate the path to oolite on the command line. Delete the trailing space and paste the following text - including the trailing space- behind it: "/Contents/MacOS/Oolite --verify-oxp ". Now drop the oxp you want to verify on the window. That will again create the path to the oxp behind the last entry. When you select the window and hit the <return> key, the verification will start. It should now open the console program, showing the results.
So you used this commandCholmondely wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:46 pmI've tried accountname@Fulls-Air ~ % /Users/accountname/Desktop/Oolite/\ \ Oolite\ 1.90.appOolite.app/Contents/MacOS/Oolite --verify-oxp /Users/accountname/Library/Application\ Support/Oolite/AddOns/oolite.oxp.Cholmondeley.Carver\'s_Anarchy-Ships_Library.oxp
and gotten this:
zsh: no such file or directory: /Users/accountname/Desktop/Oolite/ Oolite 1.90.appOolite.app/Contents/MacOS/Oolite
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/Users/accountname/Desktop/Oolite/\ \ Oolite\ 1.90.appOolite.app/Contents/MacOS/Oolite --verify-oxp /Users/accountname/Library/Application\ Support/Oolite/AddOns/oolite.oxp.Cholmondeley.Carver\'s_Anarchy-Ships_Library.oxpCode: Select all
zsh: no such file or directory: /Users/accountname/Desktop/Oolite/ Oolite 1.90.appOolite.app/Contents/MacOS/OoliteCode: Select all
/Users/accountname/Desktop/Oolite/\ \ Oolite\ 1.90.appOolite.app/Contents/MacOS/OoliteCode: Select all
\ \ OoliteSomething only you can find out: Does the directory you specified really exist? If not, is there a similar directory that you actually wanted to specify?Cholmondely wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:59 amaccountname@Fulls-Air ~ % /Users/accountname/Desktop/Oolite/Oolite\ 1.90.appoolite.app/oolite --verify-oxp /Users/accountname/Library/Application\ Support/Oolite/Managed\ AddOns/GalacticAlmanacBeta1.oxp
zsh: no such file or directory: /Users/accountname/Desktop/Oolite/Oolite 1.90.appoolite.app/oolite
accountname@Fulls-Air ~ %
So I remember using this several months ago and it worked fine. All of a sudden it has been attacked by mental constipation, hebetation of the intellect, pandation of the cranium or some such.
I wonder if it might be some secretive Apple Update which happened and jinxed everything?
Good point. I never use the word "app". I have no idea where 1.90.appoolite.app/oolite came from.hiran wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:45 pmSomething only you can find out: Does the directory you specified really exist? If not, is there a similar directory that you actually wanted to specify?Cholmondely wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:59 amaccountname@Fulls-Air ~ % /Users/accountname/Desktop/Oolite/Oolite\ 1.90.appoolite.app/oolite --verify-oxp /Users/accountname/Library/Application\ Support/Oolite/Managed\ AddOns/GalacticAlmanacBeta1.oxp
zsh: no such file or directory: /Users/accountname/Desktop/Oolite/Oolite 1.90.appoolite.app/oolite
accountname@Fulls-Air ~ %
So I remember using this several months ago and it worked fine. All of a sudden it has been attacked by mental constipation, hebetation of the intellect, pandation of the cranium or some such.
I wonder if it might be some secretive Apple Update which happened and jinxed everything?
From that difference figure out what needs to change in the command so the computer will actually understand.
...but you are the one who placed the purple line in the terminal window? So either you typed it, or you used drag and drop to construct it. In the end you hit the enter key, which indicated to the computer you want that command executed. So what would be the correct command to put there?Cholmondely wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:49 pmGood point. I never use the word "app". I have no idea where 1.90.appoolite.app/oolite came from.hiran wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:45 pmSomething only you can find out: Does the directory you specified really exist? If not, is there a similar directory that you actually wanted to specify?Cholmondely wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:59 amaccountname@Fulls-Air ~ % /Users/accountname/Desktop/Oolite/Oolite\ 1.90.appoolite.app/oolite --verify-oxp /Users/accountname/Library/Application\ Support/Oolite/Managed\ AddOns/GalacticAlmanacBeta1.oxp
zsh: no such file or directory: /Users/accountname/Desktop/Oolite/Oolite 1.90.appoolite.app/oolite
accountname@Fulls-Air ~ %
So I remember using this several months ago and it worked fine. All of a sudden it has been attacked by mental constipation, hebetation of the intellect, pandation of the cranium or some such.
I wonder if it might be some secretive Apple Update which happened and jinxed everything?
From that difference figure out what needs to change in the command so the computer will actually understand.
accountname@Fulls-Air ~ % is just the prompt with which the computer is indicating it will listen for a new command.--verify-oxp, which tells oolite you want to verify an oxp, and after that you need the full path to the OXP that shall be verified.So, yes, I used drag and drop.hiran wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:10 am...but you are the one who placed the purple line in the terminal window? So either you typed it, or you used drag and drop to construct it. In the end you hit the enter key, which indicated to the computer you want that command executed. So what would be the correct command to put there?Cholmondely wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:49 pmGood point. I never use the word "app". I have no idea where 1.90.appoolite.app/oolite came from.hiran wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:45 pm
Something only you can find out: Does the directory you specified really exist? If not, is there a similar directory that you actually wanted to specify?
From that difference figure out what needs to change in the command so the computer will actually understand.
Soaccountname@Fulls-Air ~ %is just the prompt with which the computer is indicating it will listen for a new command.
The next part is the command or binary you want to execute, and to me it looks like the full path to oolite (the executable file, not just the installation directory). After that you have parameters. One of them is--verify-oxp, which tells oolite you want to verify an oxp, and after that you need the full path to the OXP that shall be verified.
Noone but you knows where oolite is installed on your computer, and noone but you knows where that OXP resides...