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Re: Janky time blues

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:02 am
by arquebus
Those two new OXPs are a godsend!

But I've got a gift horse and I'm sticking my head between its lips...

In the Weaponry list, the missile/pylon loadout isn't ordered according to the left-to-right of the pylon icons.

On my current setup for example, the pylons are:

Cargo Shepherd - ASM-128 Jida Missile - Goods Container 10 TC

but in the F5 list it's:

Goods Container 10 TC
Cargo Shepherd
ASM-128 Jida Missile

So it's not even reverse sorted.

Is this something that can be adjusted?

Re: Janky time blues

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:06 am
by arquebus
Also, uh... the categories on the F3 screen are... weird?

For example, under ENERGY I've got:

TraderNet Sub
ITHA Escort license
Home System privileges

Under ARMOUR I've got:

LMSS Starboard / Port / Forward / Aft Assembly (4 entries)

The Goods Containers look like they're listed under SCANNERS.

I may be misunderstanding how the categories are divided, because this seems weird. I realize these probably had to be manually categorized (oof).

Re: Janky time blues

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:06 am
by phkb
arquebus wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:02 am
Is this something that can be adjusted?
Maybe. I'll have a look at what's possible.
arquebus wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:06 am
Also, uh... the categories on the F3 screen are... weird?
Um, that's weird. Are you using the latest trunk or Oolite? And are you using the LoadoutByCategory_190.oxz, or LoadoutByCategory.oxz?

Re: Janky time blues

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:12 am
by Cholmondely
phkb wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:27 am
Cholmondely wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:51 pm
Unless you are Phkb
Honestly, it's not that hard.

Here's a video of a fuel scoop run in the strict game with no heat shields or fuel injectors. Just scoops. There's no sound, as I generally have it switched off for dev work, and forgot to turn it on in the video.

YouTube: Fuel scooping without heat shields

At around 1:03 I'm mass-locked by the sun and drop out of torus.
At around 1:28 I switch to the rear view to make things a little easier to see
At around 1:54 the fuel scoops engage, and I switch back to front view, and then point my ship at the horizon line of the sun.
At around 2:09 the fuel scoops finish their work, and I point my ship away from the sun.
Note that I don't have injectors, so I can't boost away from here.
At around 2:59 the cabin temp hits the red zone.
At around 3:20 I exit mass-lock range and can engage torus.
At around 3:29 the cabin temp starts dropping as I leave the "hot zone" of the sun.

Hopefully that at least proves that I'm not some sort of piloting whizz and can accomplish the impossible!
Any chance of just pasting this information above (about why no sound & timings) on the YouTube page itself?

And maybe also a note about the compass showing only the planet, and not the sun as the ASC can?

Then all the information is on the screen if someone else watches it!


Edited to add: I've linked it to the "Fuel Scoops" page on the wiki (where "Sun skimming" redirects one to).

Re: Janky time blues

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:53 pm
by arquebus
phkb wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:06 am
arquebus wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:02 am
Is this something that can be adjusted?
Maybe. I'll have a look at what's possible.
arquebus wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:06 am
Also, uh... the categories on the F3 screen are... weird?
Um, that's weird. Are you using the latest trunk or Oolite? And are you using the LoadoutByCategory_190.oxz, or LoadoutByCategory.oxz?
I'm using the latter, but possibly not the latest trunk. I'll try that!

Re: Janky time blues

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:56 pm
by arquebus
Ah yeah that was it, I thought I had the most recent, but I actually had the next to last.