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hiran wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:56 pm

Seems we need to have a close eye on planetfall in combination with feudal states.
viewtopic.php?p=295473#p295473

Once ready, it needs to go somewhere here:
https://github.com/OoliteProject/oolite ... index.html

In the meantime we could look at the descriptions of the existing flavours. Who has ideas?

Depth: adds depth to your Ooniverse - various of the political states (communist, feudal etc) gain individual flavours with specific ships and stations. Some individual systems (Lave, Tionisla etc.) likewise. Trade becomes more complex, as does buying combat equipment for your ship. You might prefer to wait and master the basic game before adding in these complexities.

hiran wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:58 pm

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:08 pm

hiran wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:13 pm

Enough of a new dimension to make it a flavour?

They are already part of the "Depth" flavour which includes the systems OXPs (Commies, Dictatorships, Anarchies and Feudal States). DGill's version will replace the current FS v.2, just as phkb's Planet Fall v.2 will replace the current v.1. And PlanetFall is already required by Feudal States.

Fuedal States already outshines the other Systems OXPs (not only ships and stations but "feudal things to do" too)! There is a bit more polishing to do before the current version is published. Just as with PlanetFall v.2

As a result, the addition of extra landing sites should perhaps be better done in Feudal States v.3 rather than in PF v.2. Then v.2 can be used seamlessly (ha!) with both FS v.2 and FS v.3

I like both ideas: To put them into the Depth flavour, and to keep PlanetFall as an enabler for other 'story-bound' OXPs.
Let's take that discussion on in viewtopic.php?t=21456

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:01 pm

hiran wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:58 pm

I like both ideas: To put them into the Depth flavour, and to keep PlanetFall as an enabler for other 'story-bound' OXPs.
Let's take that discussion on in viewtopic.php?t=21456

Ahem! They are already in your "Depth flavour". It currently links to the old versions, but will automatically link to the new ones whenever they are published.

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:45 pm

Here's a preliminary stab:

Depth: adds depth to your Ooniverse - various of the political states (communist, feudal etc) gain individual flavours with specific ships and stations. Some individual systems (Lave, Tionisla etc.) likewise. Trade becomes more complex, as does buying combat equipment for your ship. You might prefer to wait and master the basic game before adding in these complexities.

hiran wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:26 pm

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:01 pm

hiran wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:58 pm

I like both ideas: To put them into the Depth flavour, and to keep PlanetFall as an enabler for other 'story-bound' OXPs.
Let's take that discussion on in viewtopic.php?t=21456

Ahem! They are already in your "Depth flavour". It currently links to the old versions, but will automatically link to the new ones whenever they are published.

Are they? As much as I can see 'Depth' currently looks pretty much Vanilla to me...
https://github.com/OoliteProject/oolite ... .oolite-es

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 10:58 am

3) Depth Set

First stab - this will be modified

Individual Systems:
Lave
Riredi
Taranis (Lerelace)
Tianve
Tionisla Orbital Graveyard (4 OXPs)
Tionisla Chronicle Array + Tionisla Reporter + GNN


Other
Extra Rock Hermits
Globe Stations
Hathor trade stations (needs publishing)
Nephthys station
Nuit station
Torus Stations
Z-GrOovY Small System Stations

Deep Space Dredgers
Liners


Politics:
Anarchies + Behemoth (needed for Bounty Amnesties)
Feudal States + Planet Fall
Commies
Dictatorships + Imperial Astrofactories
Ring Racer OXP + RRS Group + Sothis TC (needs publishing!) (to flesh out the Corporate States)


Building on the above
Smugglers
Diplomancy
Weapon Laws
Bounty system


Description: This OXP suite adds depth to your Ooniverse, amplifying differences between political systems, fleshing out some of the individual systems, adding more variety in stations and making travel more complicated due to import bans and need for visas.

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:18 am

*Beginner's Set (Market Observer, XenonUI, Vimana-X HUD, Barrel Roll, Fast Target Selector, ILS et al) Basic information/equipment to play the game
*Depth Set: Lore & Politics (Lave, TOGY, Commies, Feudal States, GNN, Weapon Laws etc)
*G1 Missions & Activities (Asteroid Storm, Long Way Round, GalCop Missions etc)
*Trading (New Cargoes, Smugglers, Bloomberg Markets etc)
*Elite Trader (Reval's suite)
*Stranger's World
*Exploration (Explorer's Club, Zero-Map - Wildeblood will probably have better ideas for this)


Here goes!

1) Beginner's Set:

From the Vital Statistics ("Mega-OXP"):
Ship's Library (Ship's Manual)
XenonUI
Technical Reference Library
GalCop Galactic Registry
Galactic Almanac
Market Observer
Vimana-X HUD
HUD Selector

plus the following
Equipment 'Sell Item' Color
Expanded Weapon Info
Loadout by Category
Missile Summary
'No Market' Notification

That's for the background information

Next: Fixing stuff
Escape Pod Slave Fix
Planet Forests and Oceans (not yet in Expansions Manager)

Then other basic helpers:
View Sound
Display Current Course

Auto-prime equipment
Remove Individual Pylon
ILS

Modern Start
Start Advice
Start Choices

Fast Target Selector
Barrel Roll

Edited to add

Description: This OXP suite is a basic set, containing vital OXPs for new players, but also ones useful for more seasoned players.


Edited to further add
3 additions:
LogEvents
BGS
Library OXP

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 10:24 am

2) Stranger's World Set.

This one is easy - every single jolly one of his OXPs!

But not "Energy Rebalance SCC", "SW HUD DAI" or his "Leesti is Moon" texture experiments.

Unsure about his FPO (Famous Planets Overhaul) which is not on the Expansions Manager (And there are conflicts with Phkb's most recent work on city lights textures - Tianve, Riredi, Lave, Digebiti).

And there are a couple of others to add in.

1) Useful MFDs (gives Solar Wind Flux automatically without needing to set the ASC to the sun)
2) Fuel Tank (the pylon mounted original which he wrote his own "Internal Fuel Tank" to complement)
3) Phkb has come up with a fix for the Commies SLAPU/CZGF stations: CommiesOrbitUpdate.oxz. Several other stations will eventually need this too (Hathor, Taxi Galactica, The Collector). This is not on the Expansions Manager.

Description: This suite was crafted by Stranger, who like many his fellow "Roolite" Russian players prefers much more realism. All movement uses fuel. Distances are more realistic, planets and moons move in orbits, trade is tweaked, etc.

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:14 pm

3) Depth Set

First stab - this will be modified

Individual Systems:
Lave
Riredi
Taranis (Lerelace)
Tianve
Tionisla Orbital Graveyard (4 OXPs)
Tionisla Chronicle Array + Tionisla Reporter + GNN


Other
Extra Rock Hermits
Globe Stations
Hathor trade stations (needs publishing)
Nephthys station
Nuit station
Torus Stations
Z-GrOovY Small System Stations

Deep Space Dredgers
Liners


Politics:
Anarchies + Behemoth (needed for Bounty Amnesties)
Feudal States + Planet Fall
Commies
Dictatorships + Imperial Astrofactories
Ring Racer OXP + RRS Group + Sothis TC (needs publishing!) (to flesh out the Corporate States)


Building on the above
Smugglers
Diplomancy
Weapon Laws
Bounty system


Description: This OXP suite adds depth to your Ooniverse, amplifying differences between political systems, fleshing out some of the individual systems, adding more variety in stations and making travel more complicated due to import bans and need for visas.

hiran wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:58 am

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:14 pm

3) Depth Set

First stab - this will be modified

Individual Systems:
Lave
Riredi
Taranis (Lerelace)
Tianve
Tionisla Orbital Graveyard (4 OXPs)
Tionisla Chronicle Array + Tionisla Reporter + GNN


Other
Extra Rock Hermits
Globe Stations
Hathor trade stations (needs publishing)
Nephthys station
Nuit station
Torus Stations
Z-GrOovY Small System Stations

Deep Space Dredgers
Liners


Politics:
Anarchies + Behemoth (needed for Bounty Amnesties)
Feudal States + Planet Fall
Commies
Dictatorships + Imperial Astrofactories
Ring Racer OXP + RRS Group + Sothis TC (needs publishing!) (to flesh out the Corporate States)


Building on the above
Smugglers
Diplomancy
Weapon Laws
Bounty system


Description: This OXP suite adds depth to your Ooniverse, amplifying differences between political systems, fleshing out some of the individual systems, adding more variety in stations and making travel more complicated due to import bans and need for visas.

I put in as many as I found.

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:19 pm

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:18 am

*Beginner's Set (Market Observer, XenonUI, Vimana-X HUD, Barrel Roll, Fast Target Selector, ILS et al) Basic information/equipment to play the game
*Depth Set: Lore & Politics (Lave, TOGY, Commies, Feudal States, GNN, Weapon Laws etc)
*G1 Missions & Activities (Asteroid Storm, Long Way Round, GalCop Missions etc)
*Trading (New Cargoes, Smugglers, Bloomberg Markets etc)
*Elite Trader (Reval's suite)
*Stranger's World
*Exploration (Explorer's Club, Zero-Map - Wildeblood will probably have better ideas for this)


Here goes!

1) Beginner's Set:

From the Vital Statistics ("Mega-OXP"):
Ship's Library (Ship's Manual)
XenonUI
Technical Reference Library
GalCop Galactic Registry
Galactic Almanac
Market Observer
Vimana-X HUD
HUD Selector

plus the following
Equipment 'Sell Item' Color
Expanded Weapon Info
Loadout by Category
Missile Summary
'No Market' Notification

That's for the background information

Next: Fixing stuff
Escape Pod Slave Fix
Planet Forests and Oceans (not yet in Expansions Manager)

Then other basic helpers:
View Sound
Display Current Course

Auto-prime equipment
Remove Individual Pylon
ILS

Modern Start
Start Advice
Start Choices

Fast Target Selector
Barrel Roll

Edited to add

Description: This OXP suite is a basic set, containing vital OXPs for new players, but also ones useful for more seasoned players.


Edited to further add
3 additions:
LogEvents
BGS
Library OXP

hiran wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:14 am

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:19 pm

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:18 am

*Beginner's Set (Market Observer, XenonUI, Vimana-X HUD, Barrel Roll, Fast Target Selector, ILS et al) Basic information/equipment to play the game
*Depth Set: Lore & Politics (Lave, TOGY, Commies, Feudal States, GNN, Weapon Laws etc)
*G1 Missions & Activities (Asteroid Storm, Long Way Round, GalCop Missions etc)
*Trading (New Cargoes, Smugglers, Bloomberg Markets etc)
*Elite Trader (Reval's suite)
*Stranger's World
*Exploration (Explorer's Club, Zero-Map - Wildeblood will probably have better ideas for this)


Here goes!

1) Beginner's Set:

From the Vital Statistics ("Mega-OXP"):
Ship's Library (Ship's Manual)
XenonUI
Technical Reference Library
GalCop Galactic Registry
Galactic Almanac
Market Observer
Vimana-X HUD
HUD Selector

plus the following
Equipment 'Sell Item' Color
Expanded Weapon Info
Loadout by Category
Missile Summary
'No Market' Notification

That's for the background information

Next: Fixing stuff
Escape Pod Slave Fix
Planet Forests and Oceans (not yet in Expansions Manager)

Then other basic helpers:
View Sound
Display Current Course

Auto-prime equipment
Remove Individual Pylon
ILS

Modern Start
Start Advice
Start Choices

Fast Target Selector
Barrel Roll

Edited to add

Description: This OXP suite is a basic set, containing vital OXPs for new players, but also ones useful for more seasoned players.


Edited to further add
3 additions:
LogEvents
BGS
Library OXP

Added as much Beginners' Set as I could find.