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Re: A new moral conundrum
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:21 pm
by Smivs
Wildeblood wrote:
Evolution? Please explain?
Evolution is the process by which species change over generations into new species. The changes can be caused by random mutation, environmental influences and luck.
In America, a specific set of circumstances and factors led a pre-Roadrunner species to evolve into the Roadrunner. These circumstances did not occur in Australia. Specifically there were fewer roads, and no predators (Coyotes) to spur the development path that led to the Roadrunner. Australian pre-Roadrunners encountered different influencing factors, where being much bigger and having a long neck were definite advantages, so in Australia, the proto-roadrunner evolved into the Emu.
I thought everybody knew that!
Re: A new moral conundrum
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:55 pm
by Wildeblood
Actually, road runners are cuckoos.
Geococcyx = ground cuckoo.
Re: A new moral conundrum
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 1:15 pm
by Disembodied
Beware the perils of evolution:
Re: A new moral conundrum
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:27 am
by spud42
Lets see, we have feral camels, feral cats,feral dogs,feral rabbits, feral canetoads, feral horses (brumbies) ,feral birds (starlings,common myna,eurasian skylarks even the common sparrow!) feral goats,feral water buffalo,feral fox and i forgot feral pigs.....
https://www.environment.gov.au/biodiver ... -australia
not a great track record for introduced species.... still we avoided Rabies til Johnny Depp smuggled his dogs past quarantine.... lol
Re: A new moral conundrum
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:44 pm
by Wildeblood
Goats. I drove from Adelaide to Sydney once and it was just goats the whole way. Every hundred metres or so there was a group of them by the roadside watching the passing traffic, and it went on like that for hundreds of kilometres. Never saw a single kangaroo, but no end of goats.
Re: A new moral conundrum
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:31 pm
by Smivs
spud42 wrote:Lets see, we have feral camels, feral cats,feral dogs,feral rabbits, feral canetoads, feral horses (brumbies) ,feral birds (starlings,common myna,eurasian skylarks even the common sparrow!) feral goats,feral water buffalo,feral fox and i forgot feral pigs.....
It's the rest of the World's revenge for all those back-packers
Re: A new moral conundrum
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:00 pm
by phkb
You forgot
feral ants.
Re: A new moral conundrum
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:59 am
by Wildeblood
Thanks for that, I done tweeted it.
Re: A new moral conundrum
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:20 am
by spud42
forgot the Lantana bug, brought over 15 years ago to stop the rapid spread of lantana... it only lives on lantana he said.... well i rang the dickhead from the university of QLD and reported direct to him that i had thousands of them all over my ex wifes prize garden. killed many different plant species. we lived 50m from the interstate line to NSW. little buggers were hitchhiking on the trains.
BTW. there were none on the ornamental lantana we had in pots!!!
Re: A new moral conundrum
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:10 pm
by Wildeblood
OTOH, introducing African dung beetles has been a great success. But as a general rule, the smaller a species the more it should be avoided, simply because they're so much harder to remove if we change our minds.
Might I remind you all that roadrunners are chook-sized and cute, and nothing like lantana, lantana bugs or fire ants.
Re: A new moral conundrum
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:38 pm
by Diziet Sma
Wildeblood wrote:Might I remind you all that roadrunners are chook-sized
OTOH, cane toads are damn-near chook-sized too!
Re: A new moral conundrum
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:22 am
by Wildeblood
1. Could any of you geococcyxophobic nay-sayers summarize your reservations in 140 or fewer characters, please?
#renounceGCP
2. Is that you with the cane toad, Dizzy? Is that photo tweetable?
Re: A new moral conundrum
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:25 am
by Diziet Sma
<chuckles>
Just yanking your chain, mate..
Re: A new moral conundrum
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:27 am
by Wildeblood
Yeah, but can I use the photo?
Re: A new moral conundrum
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:33 am
by Diziet Sma
No, it's not me.. and I have no idea about the photo.. I found it by doing a google image search for "massive cane toad".