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Ha, they'd all be out of business within a year!Disembodied wrote:We can manage - just about - to make the food industry print nutritional information on their products. Would it not be possible to have a media outlet's content assessed for accuracy, over the course of a year, say, and award it an average bullshit rating?
Even an unofficial panel would be an interesting venture, giving media outlets a kind of overall Snopes rating (a breakdown would be better: this newspaper contains 60% clickbait, 30% recycled corporate press releases, 5% lies, 5% opinion. Gluten free.). But of course, the old question remains: who reviews the reviewers?spud42 wrote:now THAT is a very interesting idea.... have a media review panel judge the accuracy of the reports and penalise for false and misleading/sensationalist reports....
The Press of courseDisembodied wrote:Even an unofficial panel would be an interesting venture, giving media outlets a kind of overall Snopes rating (a breakdown would be better: this newspaper contains 60% clickbait, 30% recycled corporate press releases, 5% lies, 5% opinion. Gluten free.). But of course, the old question remains: who reviews the reviewers?
Venator Dha wrote:The Press of course
Yersss ... at root, the trouble is that we don't have a free press. We have an owned press, with a very small number of owners. By and large, our papers are free to print anything that their billionaire owners don't actively disagree with.I can only repeat my tired refrain, these idiots are allowed to vote (why?):Disembodied wrote:Indeed - and reaching the stage where people refuse to vaccinate their children because of the risks they think exists, because they can't perceive the risks (to their children and society in general) of not vaccinating them. I've never seen a child blinded by measles, but I have seen huge shrieking headlines written by journalists whose grasp of science is roughly equivalent to their capacity for shame.cim wrote:When the overall advances in medicine, nutrition and public health have had such a substantial effect, it's certainly not reasonable to expect non-specialists to evaluate each new claim. That goes both ways of course - for every person disinfecting their house twice daily there's someone saying "we stabbed ourselves with rusty nails regularly when I were a lad and it never did us any harm", being egged on by a bunch of journalists complaining about "health and safety gone mad" who work in an office where the worst risk they personally face is spilling their coffee on themselves.
Disembodied wrote:Indeed - and reaching the stage where people refuse to vaccinate their children because of the risks they think exists, because they can't perceive the risks (to their children and society in general) of not vaccinating them. I've never seen a child blinded by measlescim wrote:When the overall advances in medicine, nutrition and public health have had such a substantial effect, it's certainly not reasonable to expect non-specialists to evaluate each new claim. That goes both ways of course - for every person disinfecting their house twice daily there's someone saying "we stabbed ourselves with rusty nails regularly when I were a lad and it never did us any harm", being egged on by a bunch of journalists complaining about "health and safety gone mad" who work in an office where the worst risk they personally face is spilling their coffee on themselves.
They're in the SBS mix with all the other national broadcasters.Diziet Sma wrote:A pity they don't have a proper TV channel in Australia, like they do in the US/UK. Somehow, I don't see any of our politicians ever allowing that, though.
It's just a different brand, is all. They're much better than most western media at pointing out the western government/corporate lies - not so hot on their own government/corporate lies, though. Which, given the lifespan of a dissenting Russian journalist, isn't too surprising.Diziet Sma wrote:Russia Today has become my main news source these days. Refreshingly free of BS.
Sorry, but no, they're not. SBS broadcasts its own news in Russian on SBS Radio, and SBS on Demand rebroadcasts news (again, in Russian) from the the Russian TV channel NTV, but they do not use material from Russia Today, which broadcasts in English, Arabic and Spanish, and is an entirely different channel. In Australia, until recently*, RT could only be accessed via the internet.Wildeblood wrote:They're in the SBS mix with all the other national broadcasters.
Fortunately, that's what I'm most interested in.. I'm sick of being treated like a mushroom by western media.Disembodied wrote:They're much better than most western media at pointing out the western government/corporate lies