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Re: Species Icons in Oolite

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:43 am
by PhantorGorth
Tricky wrote:
Doh! Just done a search. I know why it looked odd, it looked like a squirrel which IS a rodent. I actually didn't know that until just now. Sorry. :oops:
I didn't even think you talking about that. I thought you meant that one rodent does not necessarily look exactly like another and may not have bushy tails. Given that there are 443 different inhabitant descriptions in Oolite I wasn't going to give each one a different symbol!

Re: Species Icons in Oolite

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:58 am
by Eric Walch
Tricky wrote:
it looked like a squirrel which IS a rodent. .... Sorry. :oops:
When you look at the etymology of rodent it seems to be derived from red. And when yoy think at red rodents, you DO think at squirrels and not at mice. :lol:

We in the Netherlands call this species: "Nibblers". That more or less describes their behaviour and not the colour of the species.

Re: Species Icons in Oolite

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:12 am
by Commander McLane
Eric Walch wrote:
When you look at the etymology of rodent it seems to be derived from red.
Not quite. According to your link it seems to be derived from either of the Proto-Indo-European roots "*red-" or "*rēd-", none of which have anything to do with a colour, but with "gnawing" or "pecking". Hence rodents are "Nagetiere" or "Nager" in German. :wink:

Re: Species Icons in Oolite

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:18 am
by Cody
Beavers are my favourite rodents.

Re: Species Icons in Oolite

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:40 am
by Smivs
Rodents aren't what they used to be...

Re: Species Icons in Oolite

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:46 am
by Disembodied
They're not what they're going to be, either ... ;)

Re: Species Icons in Oolite

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:32 pm
by CommRLock78
Commander McLane wrote:
Eric Walch wrote:
When you look at the etymology of rodent it seems to be derived from red.
Not quite. According to your link it seems to be derived from either of the Proto-Indo-European roots "*red-" or "*rēd-", none of which have anything to do with a colour, but with "gnawing" or "pecking". Hence rodents are "Nagetiere" or "Nager" in German. :wink:
You're absolutely right. In Irish the noun "rodent" is creimire and the verb "gnaw" is creim :).
Smivs wrote:
Rodents aren't what they used to be...
Disembodied wrote:
They're not what they're going to be, either ... ;)
:lol: . Interesting find Disembodied - it's fun to play the what if game and rabbucks and falanxes are no exception :D.
PhantorGorth wrote:
Tricky wrote:
Yeah! Single row. 2 symbols to the left of the star, 2 symbols to the right of the star.
I'll do a version like that and post here.
Looking forward to seeing it - great work man! :D

Re: Species Icons in Oolite

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:50 am
by Disembodied
CommRLock78 wrote:
Interesting find Disembodied - it's fun to play the what if game and rabbucks and falanxes are no exception :D.
It's from a great book called After Man: a zoology of the future by Dougal Dixon, sadly long out of print but still available second-hand, probably. It took the assumption that a mass extinction wiped out humanity and most other large animals, then jumped 50 million years forward to see what the evolutionary results might be. The illustrations were all done in this slightly Edwardian style, sometimes with little "field notes" written next to the pictures.

Re: Species Icons in Oolite

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:00 am
by Diziet Sma
Disembodied wrote:
It took the assumption that a mass extinction wiped out humanity and most other large animals
Hmmm.. getting uncomfortably close to what the next 30-100 years may hold in store for the planet, in other words..

Re: Species Icons in Oolite

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:21 pm
by pagroove
Can't wait for this. What is the current status of this project?

Re: Species Icons in Oolite

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:34 pm
by JD
Diziet Sma wrote:
Disembodied wrote:
It took the assumption that a mass extinction wiped out humanity and most other large animals
Hmmm.. getting uncomfortably close to what the next 30-100 years may hold in store for the planet, in other words..
pagroove wrote:
Can't wait for this. What is the current status of this project?
Quite well advanced I think.

Re: Species Icons in Oolite

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:20 pm
by CommRLock78
Disembodied wrote:
CommRLock78 wrote:
Interesting find Disembodied - it's fun to play the what if game and rabbucks and falanxes are no exception :D.
It's from a great book called After Man: a zoology of the future by Dougal Dixon, sadly long out of print but still available second-hand, probably. It took the assumption that a mass extinction wiped out humanity and most other large animals, then jumped 50 million years forward to see what the evolutionary results might be. The illustrations were all done in this slightly Edwardian style, sometimes with little "field notes" written next to the pictures.
You know, I think I have seen this book before - a really long time ago. I used to be really in to paleontology as a kid and this book was one of my favorites - the artwork between the two books is quite similar.
pagroove wrote:
Can't wait for this. What is the current status of this project?
I can't wait myself, however, talking to PG yesterday it looks like it'll be a little while yet. He was saying getting the two icons to the left of the star is going to be a bit more difficult (but I'm sure not impossible).

Re: Species Icons in Oolite

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:56 pm
by PhantorGorth
PhantorGorth wrote:
Tricky wrote:
Yeah! Single row. 2 symbols to the left of the star, 2 symbols to the right of the star.
I'll do a version like that and post here.
Here you are:
Image
I put the government and inhabitants on the left as I wanted to keep the Tech Level number on the right.

Please can you all not ask for any more variants at the moment as I had to comment out swathes of code that I was working on and had to rearrange and add code I do not intend to keep (well not in this form) in order to get it to do the left-hand side.

Phantor

Re: Species Icons in Oolite

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:49 am
by CommRLock78
No more requests from me :P - it's perfect! 8)

Re: Species Icons in Oolite

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:16 am
by Tricky
I did actually mention another format but you can ignore that if everyone likes this one. :D