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Re: Ship Wishlist!!! :-D

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:45 pm
by Cody
Selezen wrote:
... "if there's nothing positive to say, don't say anything and hope he vanished back into the swamp..."
<sniggers>

Re: Ship Wishlist!!! :-D

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:31 pm
by Diziet Sma
Diziet Sma wrote:
Selezen wrote:
Selezen wrote:
If it's acceptable I'll start chopping it up for texturing.
No-one? Did I imagine I posted a question??
Perhaps you should wait for Commander McLane to log in again, since it was his request.. :wink:
Selezen wrote:
Yeah, but no-one else wants to comment?? On THIS forum? ;-)

Maybe it's because we're polite - "if there's nothing positive to say, don't say anything and hope he vanished back into the swamp..."
Maybe it's because nobody else regards themselves as fit to judge whether the Orion model is "acceptable".. Very few people outside Germany ever saw the show. :wink:

Re: Ship Wishlist!!! :-D

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:23 pm
by Rorschachhamster
Diziet Sma wrote:
Perhaps you should wait for Commander McLane to log in again, since it was his request.. :wink:
Selezen wrote:
Yeah, but no-one else wants to comment?? On THIS forum? ;-)

Maybe it's because we're polite - "if there's nothing positive to say, don't say anything and hope he vanished back into the swamp..."
I have seen the first episode just today and my Orion is almost ready... :roll: The more the merrier, I guess. :P

Re: Ship Wishlist!!! :-D

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:19 pm
by maaarcooose
How about a flyable Death Star.

Pretty much unlimited fuel, super powerful weapons and can be easily destroyed with one missile to the right spot.

!m!

Re: Ship Wishlist!!! :-D

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:38 pm
by Smivs
maaarcooose wrote:
How about a flyable Death Star.
Maybe not. As Commander Wilmot pointed out elsewhere, cleaning it could be a problem 8)

Re: Ship Wishlist!!! :-D

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:45 pm
by mandoman
GGShinobi wrote:
Eeerm goooood question mandoman, let me think about that... :roll: hmmmmmmmmm .... veeeery difficult decision....
....

But I think the answer is

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Yes please!!!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Diziet Sma wrote:
mandoman wrote:
Awe, gee, shucks. Does that mean I should keep working on it? It's a pretty cool ship, for sure. :D
I think you might have to deal with a rather upset GGShinobi if you didn't :lol: :mrgreen:
LOL, okay, I'll run with it. Like I said, though, someone else may want to do the texturing. For me, I would paint it as close to what I see in the pics, but it may not be satisfactory to others.
Selezen wrote:
Since I read the Orion post, I decided to have a go at a model. I've finished a shape and put the hard lines in the right place - opinions? If it's acceptable I'll start chopping it up for texturing.
Heck, I've never seen the ship before, except those pictures. Looks like you're doing great with it. Even if no one else says anything, just finish it for fun. I'm betting you'll get a few customers, though. :wink:

Re: Ship Wishlist!!! :-D

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:50 pm
by mandoman
Smivs wrote:
Well, if we're B5-ing, we will definitely need a Narn G'Quan-class Heavy Cruiser :D
Now THAT'S a gnarly ship. Are you going to build it, Smivs? :)

Re: Ship Wishlist!!! :-D

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:02 pm
by Shipbuilder
Selezen wrote:
Since I read the Orion post, I decided to have a go at a model. I've finished a shape and put the hard lines in the right place - opinions? If it's acceptable I'll start chopping it up for texturing.

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Selezen - Good looking model. I look forward to seeing it in game.

I've got a feeling that I should know this but which programming is this ship from ?

Re: Ship Wishlist!!! :-D

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:52 pm
by Cody
Shipbuilder wrote:
I've got a feeling that I should know this but which programming is thus ship from ?
This one... I think.

Re: Ship Wishlist!!! :-D

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:24 am
by Commander McLane
Sorry, I got distracted.

@ Selezen: I think it's a very worthwhile effort. Comparing your model to azzameen's, I notice a difference in the top section. There is this hexagonal star structure in the middle (which can also spin). Also, I think there should be eight struts on the underside instead of six, with the understructure possibly being octagonal instead of round. Also, there seems to be some elevation between the middle disc and the smaller upper and lower discs. Other than that, it's looking good. :D

Some inspiration may be taken from http://www.orionspace.de, where you can also find renderings and pictures of models. The movie trailers from http://www.raumpatrouille-derfilm.de/kinotrailer.htm have some useful shots as well.
Rorschachhamster wrote:
I have seen the first episode just today and my Orion is almost ready... :roll: The more the merrier, I guess. :P
Getting two instead of one is even more exciting. :D

One thing I have no idea about is which size to use for the model. The dimensions for the original are given as 150m in diameter and 32m high. However, as we all know, there is no easy translation of Earth meters into Oolite "meters". Of course, sticking to the numbers would allow the Orion to fit into a docking bay easily, which is nice. On the other hand, I'm not sure whether I imagine the ship to fit into a docking bay. Actually, I rather envision it as a capital ship. It has shuttles on board, after all. Again, on the other hand, it is capable of landing on the ground. I'm torn.

Re: Ship Wishlist!!! :-D

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:33 am
by Diziet Sma
Commander McLane wrote:
Some inspiration may be taken from http://www.orionspace.de, where you can also find renderings and pictures of models.
Some excellent sketches and models, too.. In particular, see these pages.
http://www.orionspace.de/ww/de/pub/logb ... _orion.htm
http://www.orionspace.de/ww/de/pub/raum ... chnung.htm
http://www.orionspace.de/ww/de/pub/raum ... alerie.htm
http://www.orionspace.de/ww/de/pub/raum ... odelle.htm

There are even themes and icons.
http://www.orionspace.de/ww/de/pub/raum ... d_area.htm

Re: Ship Wishlist!!! :-D

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:39 am
by Commander McLane
It seems difficult, however, to find good quality original screenshots of the model.

Re: Ship Wishlist!!! :-D

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:41 am
by Diziet Sma
Jackpot! Detailed paper/plastic model plans.
http://www.orionspace.de/pic/orion_scheloske.pdf

Edit: some sketches that will be useful for texturing.
http://www.orionspace.de/pic/orion_bogen_col.pdf

Has some detail on the sensor-disk that the model plans omit.
http://www.orionspace.de/multi/bastelbogen.zip

Very detailed cross-section sketch.
http://www.orionspace.de/pic/merzh.jpg

Largest side-view of the model I can find. (bigger than in the plans)
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Re: Ship Wishlist!!! :-D

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:57 am
by Disembodied
The Eagle Transporter from Space: 1999 would fit in quite comfortably as a low-tech (possibly in-system) hauler:

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It's even got its own forum!

http://www.eagletransporter.com/

Re: Ship Wishlist!!! :-D

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:41 pm
by Selezen
Commander McLane wrote:
It seems difficult, however, to find good quality original screenshots of the model.
Damn it all to buggery hell. I built my model based on a Shapeways model, since that site has a rotatable view of each model. Obviously the tit who uploaded that model did NOT do his research very well. One would expect a 3D modeller who is SELLING stuff to be a bit more thorough.

Anyway, I did find a screenshot that shows the underside:
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And those cutways help. Thanks. I will start again from scratch.

Is there anywhere I can get english-subtitled copies of the episodes? Is there a DVD?