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Re: [RELEASE] Constitution Class Heavy Cruiser

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:30 pm
by Diziet Sma
Commander McLane wrote:
Fatleaf wrote:
SandJ wrote:
Now you just need The Heart of Gold and Liberator for a full set.
If you have Random Hits installed then you have the Liberator. But only as a mark, not as a general ship.
At a certain point I wanted it as my player ship. But the model is too big to dock, which is a big no-no in my Ooniverse. :(
That's pretty much a no-no in any player's Ooniverse.. :mrgreen:

Re: [RELEASE] Constitution Class Heavy Cruiser

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:58 pm
by Fatleaf
It would dock in a Superhub would it not! But that would severely limit the player.
But I suppose you could make all stations Superhubs :roll:

Re: [RELEASE] Constitution Class Heavy Cruiser

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:21 am
by Commander McLane
Diziet Sma wrote:
That's pretty much a no-no in any player's Ooniverse.. :mrgreen:
Fatleaf already tells you that this hypothesis is wrong, especially as Oolite's size-check-before-launching code exempts the player, so you wouldn't even need to replace the main stations.

And don't forget the vocal minority of people who want to fly capital ships.

Being active here on the boards for more than five years has told me that my view of the player being a rather insignificant part of the Ooniverse and only getting to fly insignificant ships that don't exceed a certain size is one of the rules I adhere to, not something that I can expect to be a main stream consensus.

Re: [RELEASE] Constitution Class Heavy Cruiser

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:21 am
by Diziet Sma
Commander McLane wrote:
Diziet Sma wrote:
That's pretty much a no-no in any player's Ooniverse.. :mrgreen:
Fatleaf already tells you that this hypothesis is wrong, especially as Oolite's size-check-before-launching code exempts the player, so you wouldn't even need to replace the main stations.
Is there size-check-when-docking exemption code for the player as well? Because that's what I was mostly referring to.

Re: [RELEASE] Constitution Class Heavy Cruiser

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:31 am
by Commander McLane
Diziet Sma wrote:
Commander McLane wrote:
Diziet Sma wrote:
That's pretty much a no-no in any player's Ooniverse.. :mrgreen:
Fatleaf already tells you that this hypothesis is wrong, especially as Oolite's size-check-before-launching code exempts the player, so you wouldn't even need to replace the main stations.
Is there size-check-when-docking exemption code for the player as well? Because that's what I was mostly referring to.
There doesn't need to be, because you can dock either manually or instantly, and the game cannot possibly prevent you from doing the former. Instant docking saves you from any possible damage. With manual docking the question is whether you can get enough scrape damage to actually kill you before the docking rings appear. I can't answer that, but it may depend on your ship's max energy and energy recharge rate.

Re: [RELEASE] Constitution Class Heavy Cruiser

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:44 am
by Eric Walch
Commander McLane wrote:
There doesn't need to be, because you can dock either manually or instantly, and the game cannot possibly prevent you from doing the former. Instant docking saves you from any possible damage. With manual docking the question is whether you can get enough scrape damage to actually kill you before the docking rings appear. I can't answer that, but it may depend on your ship's max energy and energy recharge rate.
Docking too big player ships has some special code. When I remember well, the code checks the port size and when it is less than 10% bigger than the ship, is simulates a 10% bigger than the ship port for scratching. (That was code already present in 1.65). So any big size does actually 'fit' and scratches hard on the walls when not exactly centred. And remember that your point of view is often above the centre, so you have to aim at a point above the centre. (Or dock with external view on)

Re: [RELEASE] Constitution Class Heavy Cruiser

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:21 pm
by Diziet Sma
Ok.. not that I think I'll ever need it, but thanks for the explanation.. 8)

Re: [RELEASE] Constitution Class Heavy Cruiser

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:07 pm
by DredgerMan
Just downloaded it.

Shipbuilder, if you're still with us (haven't seen anything from you on the forums for a while),

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