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Re: [UPDATED RELEASE] - Police IFF Scanner Upgrade 1.2 (25/6
Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:26 am
by Capt. Murphy
Just uploaded version 1.2.
Because I didn't read the JS documentation properly
I missed out some brackets on my Timer start/stop functions in the last release. Fortunately this didn't break functionality at all and in the context of this script wouldn't cause a problem. Strangely this error doesn't produce a JS syntax error in the log, and I only realised my error whilst writing the Broken HUD/Scanner OXP script.
Re: [UPDATED RELEASE] - Police IFF Scanner Upgrade 1.2 (25/6
Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:40 am
by Wildeblood
Capt. Murphy wrote:Because I didn't read the JS documentation properly
I missed out some brackets on my Timer start/stop functions in the last release. Fortunately this didn't break functionality at all and in the context of this script wouldn't cause a problem. Strangely this error doesn't produce a JS syntax error in the log, and I only realised my error whilst writing the Broken HUD/Scanner OXP script.
Words cannot express how much I hate the syntax of JS. I might have mentioned it previously.
I just had an idea:-
As is, you target a ship, the ident computer tells you what model of ship it is, and its legal status. That's all well and good. But recall when Capt. Murphy first revealed this OXP, I complained that pirates aren't likely to carry an "I'm a fugitive" transponder, so how can you tell their legal status? I stand by that criticism, but now realize that it could explain itself: you know a ship is a fugitive
because it carries no transponder.
So here's the idea: you target a ship and instead of the ident computer displaying e.g. "Cobra 3 (clean)", "Cobra 3 (offender)" or "Cobra 3 (fugitive)" it displays "Cobra 3 (clean)", "Cobra 3 (offender)" or "No transponder (fugitive)". This way, you'd know a ship was a fugitive (i.e. pirate), but not what model of ship it was. No standing off at the edge of scanner range pinging pirates with the ident computer when they're only two or three pixels on screen and cherry-picking the easy targets, you'd have to move close enough to see them if you wanted to know what they were.
if this.ship.legalStatus some syntax fugitive then this.ship.displayName some syntax "No transponder"
Re: [UPDATED RELEASE] - Police IFF Scanner Upgrade 1.2 (25/6
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:50 am
by Capt. Murphy
Wildeblood wrote:
if this.ship.legalStatus some syntax fugitive then this.ship.displayName some syntax "No transponder"
Feel free to use the following if you want to do this. Should work from a world-script. Could be built in to your renaming ships OXP. Explicitly excludes Thargoids from having to have a transponder.
Edit - actually you might want to limit the renaming to ships with role pirate - otherwise you might be renaming named ships from a mission OXP......
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this.shipTargetAcquired = function(target)
{
if (target.isPirate && target.bounty > 50)
{
target.displayName = "No Transponder!";
}
}
Re: [UPDATED RELEASE] - Police IFF Scanner Upgrade 1.2 (25/6
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:51 am
by Zireael
So here's the idea: you target a ship and instead of the ident computer displaying e.g. "Cobra 3 (clean)", "Cobra 3 (offender)" or "Cobra 3 (fugitive)" it displays "Cobra 3 (clean)", "Cobra 3 (offender)" or "No transponder (fugitive)". This way, you'd know a ship was a fugitive (i.e. pirate), but not what model of ship it was. No standing off at the edge of scanner range pinging pirates with the ident computer when they're only two or three pixels on screen and cherry-picking the easy targets, you'd have to move close enough to see them if you wanted to know what they were.
if this.ship.legalStatus some syntax fugitive then this.ship.displayName some syntax "No transponder"
Brilliant idea!
Re: [UPDATED RELEASE] - Police IFF Scanner Upgrade 1.2 (25/6
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:01 am
by Thargoid
The only problem I see with this approach is that it may tangle up things like the bounty scanner (and other ones which play with display name).
It will need careful compatability testing I think.
Re: [UPDATED RELEASE] - Police IFF Scanner Upgrade 1.2 (25/6
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:08 am
by Capt. Murphy
It would probably be better to include the functionality in an updated bounty scanner....but is Frame around to ask?
Re: [UPDATED RELEASE] - Police IFF Scanner Upgrade 1.2 (25/6
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:16 am
by Wildeblood
Thargoid wrote:The only problem I see with this approach is that it may tangle up things like the bounty scanner (and other ones which play with display name).
It will need careful compatability testing I think.
That's why I was thinking of a script that changed it (the displayName) when it (the ship) was first first created. Leaving it until the the player actually targets the ship is too late.
Regarding the Bounty Scanner in particular, from a game play point of view, if it did hide the bounty on fugitives, well you know it's at least $50. I think it would only be wrong if it fouled up the bounty display on non-fugitive "offenders".
Re: [UPDATED RELEASE] - Police IFF Scanner Upgrade 1.2 (25/6
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:24 am
by Thargoid
I was thinking more that we could end up with less displayName, and more displayEssay.
When those names get too long, they don't look very good.
Re: [UPDATED RELEASE] - Police IFF Scanner Upgrade 1.2 (25/6
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:37 am
by Capt. Murphy
It could be done like that.
Under a
this.shipLaunchedFromStation = this.shipExitedWitchspace = function() handler.
But the trick is to exclude entities that have been given a custom name by another OXP....
Maybe only include entities whose
displayName == name
Something like this......
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this.shipLaunchedFromStation = this.shipExitedWitchspace = function()
{
function findfugitives(entity)
{
return (entity.displayName == entity.name && entity.bounty > 50);
}
var targets = system.filteredEntities(this, findfugitives);
if (targets.length > 0)
{
let counter = 0;
for (counter = 0; counter < targets.length;counter++)
{
targets[counter].displayName = "No Transponder";
}
}
}
Re: [UPDATED RELEASE] - Police IFF Scanner Upgrade 1.2 (25/6
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:46 am
by Wildeblood
Thargoid wrote:I was thinking more that we could end up with less displayName, and more displayEssay.
When those names get too long, they don't look very good.
Well then, changing "Vortex - Keeper of Darkness: Bounty: 75cr" to "No transponder" is surely an improvement?
Re: [UPDATED RELEASE] - Police IFF Scanner Upgrade 1.2 (25/6
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:01 am
by Thargoid
Capt. Murphy wrote:Maybe only include entities whose displayName == name
Then anyone who has bounty scanner installed will never see any effect from your OXP.
Re: [UPDATED RELEASE] - Police IFF Scanner Upgrade 1.2 (25/6
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:02 am
by Thargoid
Wildeblood wrote:Well then, changing "Vortex - Keeper of Darkness: Bounty: 75cr" to "No transponder" is surely an improvement?
Are you trying to annoy me, or just succeeding?
Re: [UPDATED RELEASE] - Police IFF Scanner Upgrade 1.2 (25/6
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:25 am
by Capt. Murphy
Thargoid wrote:Capt. Murphy wrote:Maybe only include entities whose displayName == name
Then anyone who has bounty scanner installed will never see any effect from your OXP.
Wouldn't Bounty Scanner just append the Bounty to the "No Transponder" name? Looking quickly at the code it appears to grab displayName, temporarily change it whilst targeted to displayName + the bounty and then changes it back to the originial displayName?
Academic anyway, I don't intend to code it into anything I'm planning on releasing - upto Wildeblood if he wants to have a shot at it.
Re: [UPDATED RELEASE] - Police IFF Scanner Upgrade 1.2 (25/6
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:45 am
by Commander McLane
I have an in-Ooniverse question about this idea: Why would a fugitive lose its transponder in the first place? And how would he automagically regain it when becoming offender again? I don't see this happening, so the idea makes only a limited amount of sense to me.
Just my 0.2 cr.
Re: [UPDATED RELEASE] - Police IFF Scanner Upgrade 1.2 (25/6
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:59 am
by Wildeblood
Commander McLane wrote:I have an in-Ooniverse question about this idea: Why would a fugitive lose its transponder in the first place? And how would he automagically regain it when becoming offender again? I don't see this happening, so the idea makes only a limited amount of sense to me.
Just my 0.2 cr.
Well that's the point, isn't it: it's an idea. Someone has an idea, they say "Here's an idea, what do you think?" Grown-ups can discuss ideas, decide whether they're good ideas, whether they're worth following up or not. It seems to me that around the "Friendliest board this side of Riedquat" only certain people are allowed to have ideas.