Re: Elite: Dangerous - Design Decision Forum
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:53 pm
They want/need mission ideas? Crikey!
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I think that is a good thing. They probably have quite a few ideas already, but a brain storming session by the community can only help. No guarantee any one idea makes it into the final game of course.Cody wrote:They want/need mission ideas? Crikey!
Sandro Sammarco, Lead Designer- Elite: Dangerous wrote:Hello you lovely backers!
Apologies for the delay – here’s the next DDF topic up for discussion, and it’s a nice little diversion: ship names!
We want them to mean something. In all the best adventure stories, ships are often characters in their own right, with suitably appropriate names. In addition, I feel that by allowing ships to be named more weight is added to player attachment and immersion.
Following on from this, I’m quite taken with the idea that we could perhaps find some form of mechanical benefits and penalties that could be applied. Perhaps something like this:
So, do you see merit in these rules, or are we complicating things for no good reason. Perhaps you think that just being able to have a name is enough? Or maybe you want more mechanics hooked onto it - or different ones. Maybe there's some cool rule waiting to be raised that describes how ship names could be used in nefarious ways?
- A ship can be given a name by a commander
- A ship name can only be registered at a reputable space dock
- There is a fee to register the name
- Names are not unique
- Ship names can be changed using the same procedure
- Swear words detected in the name will be considered a crime in some of the more puritan systems (resulting in a crime)
- As long as the ship is not destroyed, a named ship earns a tithe of reputation the commander earns
- This additional reputation is applied to the commander whilst he/she is piloting the ship (up to a cap – though the ship can keep earning more reputation)
- News feed bulletins will reference named ships with enough reputation, highlighting accomplishments achieved by them
- Some missions and events may require minimum/maximum thresholds to trigger
- When a named ship is destroyed, bonus reputation associated with it is lost
Therefore, it's now time for me to open the floor to your suggestions.[/color]
Which might result in the original coming after you, as with Homer Simpson and the "Hell's Satans" episode ...DaddyHoggy wrote:Could you find a ship with a Terrific* reputation and rename your ship after it? In the same way some snakes/lizards/insects mimic the markings of more deadly of their own kind? Of course a double edged sword if a Bounty Hunter takes an interest in you...
*As in "instils terror"
Sandro Sammarco, Lead Designer- Elite: Dangerous wrote:Hello again, Mega-backers!
Time for another (mildly belated) missions topic. This time around, we're interested in looking at ideas for criminal related missions and events.
So, what we're interested in are just what are the kinds of tasks that criminal organisations need space pilots to complete, what are the kinds of nefarious activities that pilot's might run into, who are the kind of people and organisations involved and what kind of rewards and penalties might pilots expect to face?
Repeated for ease of use and clarity are the guidelines we put up for the first mission topic regarding missions and events:
They can be single events or multipart, as well as partial (we don't want you to do our job for us, what we want from you guys is some more fun ideas). It's fine to have multiple outcomes, too, though it's worth considering how the game might measure results. Feel free to talk about mission rewards as well, as well as what kind of information (true or false) the player might receive.
Obviously the simpler the ideas are the better, but the primary purpose of this thread is to try and generate interesting avenues for us to explore, expand on and codify whether it's a description about an NPC reaction or a subtext to a briefing), so really, the most important thing is imagination and entertainment potential!
Feel free to be as precise or woolly as you want, and don't feel locked in by whatever you know (or don't) about Elite cannon or lore. The fact is, if we see something we thing could be really cool, we can always work out how to use it!
For the purposes of clarity, if might want to give a one line title like: "deep space smuggler offer" but don't worry if nothing comes to mind.
We've really enjoyed the ideas that came up in the first mission DDF topic, and look forward to more in this one!
Dan Davies, Designer- Elite: Dangerous wrote:Hello all,
This is the revised Ship Naming proposal taking into consideration the feedback we have recieved, keep it rollling!
Ship Naming
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- A ship can be given a name by a commander
- A ship name can only be registered at a reputable space dock
- There is a fee to register the name
- Names are not unique
- Although ships have unique registration numbers that can be shown
- Ship names can be changed using the same procedure
- By default a profanity filter is applied to all ship names (separate from chat filters) “starring” swear words out
- More words can be manually entered into the filter if desired by players
- Players can turn the filter off if they desire
- Further filtering can be applied on a ship by ship basis (regardless of whether the profanity filter is on or off) to hide offending ship names from the player resulting in their registration only being displayed from then on
- Additionally a player can report another ships name if it is offensive and have the option to hide it afterwards
- Players with multiple reports against their ships name will be flagged for review and may result in name removal and bonus reset
- As long as the ship is not destroyed, a named ship earns a bonus to a commander’s reputation over time
- This additional bonus is applied to the commander’s reputation values globally whilst he/she is piloting the ship
- Both positive and negative reputations are affected (i.e. the bonus exaggerates the reputation of the commander)
- News feed bulletins will reference named ships with high bonuses to reputation, highlighting accomplishments achieved by them
- Pilot names and unique registration numbers can also be used to further identify ships if need be
- Some missions and events may require minimum/maximum bonus thresholds to trigger
- Bonuses are capped to a small fixed percentage so as to not completely skew a commander’s reputation values
- This bonus is never shown to the player
- Changing the name of a ship resets the cumulative bonus to zero
- When a ship is destroyed it loses some of its built up bonus when replaced
- Reputation bonuses can never be less than 0%
- There is no player driven second-hand ship trading planned for initial release
- Second hand ships are created by the game and come with randomly generated names that the player can either keep or pay the fee to change as above
- New ships come with no such name preregistered
- Second hand ships have no bonus applied
... one wonders if that would apply to the named ship of a solo-online player?News feed bulletins will reference named ships with high bonuses to reputation, highlighting accomplishments achieved by them
I suspect not. If you play connected single player with the persistent universe maybe.Cody wrote:Thanks, Gimi...... one wonders if that would apply to the named ship of a solo-online player?News feed bulletins will reference named ships with high bonuses to reputation, highlighting accomplishments achieved by them
Tom Kewell, Designer- Elite: Dangerous wrote:Hi DDFers,
This weeks topic discusses persistant NPC characters. Many characters in the Elite: Dangerous universe are public figures, and will be consistent with all players (e.g. the Emperor will be the same character in everyone's game). Many characters players will encounter are generated as part of a players encounters and missions. Where possible the game will attempt to re-use NPC characters where appropriate, and share characters between connected players, leading to persistent NPCs with developing stories.
Goals
Character Tiers
- Provide consistent characters for player’s to interact with
- Provide a sense of history for the galaxy
- Provide the opportunity for casual encounters to become longer running threads
Character tiers are used to identify the characters, their significance and permanence in the game world.
Tier 1 Characters
Tier 1 characters are major characters within the game world, for example Planetary Presidents, Major Corporation CEO’s and top ranking crime bosses. Typically the player will interact with tier 2 characters associated with the tier 1 character rather than directly with the tier 1 character.
There is a global list of tier 1 characters.
They are identified by the following characteristics:Tier 1 Character Examples
- Players do not interact with these characters directly.
- The character is common to all online players.
- The character is created via an in-game invent – typically manually.
- The character can only be killed by an in-game event.
- A tier 2 character can be promoted to tier 1, but only by an event.
Tier 2 Characters
- Faction leaders
- Regional persons of note
- Engineering specialists (enhanced weapons and modules)
- Station based characters such as traders
- Characters providing missions
Tier 2 characters are characters that persist for players, but can be interacted with directly. They will usually be specific to the player, rather than across all players.
There is a per player list of tier 2 characters. There is an upper limit (TBD) of how many tier 2 characters can be tracked per player.
They are identified by the following characteristics:Tier 2 Character Examples
- Players can interact with the character directly.
- Character can be killed by players or by events
- Character can be created via an event, by the game or promoted from tier 3
- Characters can issue missions
Tier 3 Characters
- Faction leader underlings that the player deals directly with
- Mission targets
- Mission providers
- Pilots of NPC vessels that the player has previously interacted with
Tier 3 characters are transient characters that are created when traffic is generated, these are typically pilots for NPC ships. Tier 3 character s are randomly generated from a global pool as needed.
If the player interacts with a tier 3 character then the character may be promoted to a tier 2 so they can be encountered again.
They are identified by the following characteristics:Tier 3 Character Examples
- They are not persistent
- They can be promoted to tier 2 (and thus become persistent)
- They are randomly created according to the required archetype
Newsfeeds
- Pilots for generated traffic
- Passengers
Characters (particularly tier 1 types) can be used as named people in news items.
Required Data
Each persistent character has two sets of data:Core Information
- Core information
- Character log
The core information defines the character and how they interact with the world and the players. The required data includes:Character Log
- Name
- Archetype – this is used to manage events the character is attached to. It also defines what missions or behaviour the character has.
- Location – this is where the character is currently based.
Like players the character’s (tiers 1 and 2) generate an event log to track their history. There will be a separate design discussion on the player’s log, but for the characters the following information needs to be recorded for each entry:Discussion Points
- Timestamp
- Character
- Event type
- Other parties
How far should generated characters be shared. With friends, with the general public, with those in your current session etc.?
How long should an NPC be remembered. If a character isn't used within 3 months, should it be assumed that the player will have forgotten about them, and won't benefit from a character appearing saying "remember me?"
Should we limit how galactically important NPCs generated by player events can ultimately become[/color]
Ha, with the fact that all these services are now routinely monitored by NSA and any number of other 'spooks' agencies, I wonder how many innocent gamers are already being targeted by CIA, FBI, MI5 etc due to the nature and content of the conversationsAstrobe wrote:...what happens in other games is that players go to teamspeak, mumble or skype in order to coordinate their actions.
Oh, hi. Sorry I spent a couple hour reading this thread and others before posting, so I felt kinda like I was already in. This board is nice and friendly indeed, that's one of the two reasons I registered (the other being, that someone made a reference to Dr. Who ).Smivs wrote:Hi Astrobe, Welcome to the friendliest board this side of Riedquat.
Well with the crappy and/or badly setup hardware people usually have, they sometimes hardly can understand each other. Contrary to email, boards, and messaging, this channel is sort of encrypted by default .Smivs wrote:Ha, with the fact that all these services are now routinely monitored by NSA and any number of other 'spooks' agencies, I wonder how many innocent gamers are already being targeted by CIA, FBI, MI5 etc due to the nature and content of the conversations