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Re: "The Adventures of Captain Morgan" Or "Damn That Mossfoo
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:02 am
by Malacandra
We need a fan thread for these stories - the feedback posts are in dangerous of crowding out the episodes. But as long as I'm here (and not disciplining myself to write the next thousand words of SPP), I didn't miss the bit about Morgan's dad; that's why I talked about his stepmother.
Of course if you've read
Time Enough For Love then you know that a time-travelling Lazarus Long nails his own mother while she is pregnant with him, but it's not as bad as all that given that by then he's more than four thousand years old. Nevertheless, Long is still technically a mofo.
Which pales into insignificance next to the narrator of
All You Zombies, who at age seventeen gives birth to a baby, is found to be ambiguously gendered during the difficult birth, is gender-reassigned as male, travels back in time at age thirty-four to seduce and impregnate himself (who has now grown from babyhood to the age of nearly seventeen), and later recruits himself to travel back in time on schedule in order to set the whole train of events in motion...
Re: "The Adventures of Captain Morgan" Or "Damn That Mossfoo
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:09 pm
by spud42
cold shower need a cold shower now!!!!
no lines crossed all is well with the ooniverse.....
loved the Lazarus Long stories.... havent read the zombie book Malacandra mentioned.......
Re: "The Adventures of Captain Morgan" Or "Damn That Mossfoo
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:56 pm
by Malacandra
spud42 wrote:cold shower need a cold shower now!!!!
no lines crossed all is well with the ooniverse.....
loved the Lazarus Long stories.... havent read the zombie book Malacandra mentioned.......
Short story. Full text
here.
Re: "The Adventures of Captain Morgan" Or "Damn That Mossfoo
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:08 pm
by Paradox
Neelix wrote:Very nice, and I see exactly what you mean now. although... Special kind of hell
(although at one point I heard River's voice in my head " You see, the snow on the roof is too heavy... the ceiling will cave in.... brain is in terrible danger." )
- Neelix
Okay, I take that as a thumbs up! };]
But now I gotta know what part of the story triggered the River flashback! PM me if you have to! }:]
Re: "The Adventures of Captain Morgan" Or "Damn That Mossfoo
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:14 pm
by Neelix
Paradox wrote:
But now I gotta know what part of the story triggered the River flashback! PM me if you have to! }:]
This bit: (in combination with the illustration you posted of Bee a while back)
Static made the short, fine white hair on her head, stand out in all directions, like little rays of moonlight.
- Neelix
Re: "The Adventures of Captain Morgan" Or "Damn That Mossfoo
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:17 pm
by Paradox
SteveKing wrote:Phew..! Is it getting a little warm over here, or is it just me
Once again, a lovely balance of racey and romance. I do like the way you've chosen to approach it and allow the reader the opportunity to load the 'oxp' if they so desire
Thank you! And I will continue to offer both options.
So you do feel it was done with a sense of "class" then?
SteveKing wrote:Have you read any of John Norman's 'Gor' series? Other than the situation being a little less 'civilised' and very male oriented, from what I remember, the erotica has a similar flavour.
Great story with.. er.. benefits
OMG! Yes, I actually read the whole series way back in high school! Our librarians obviously didn't do much pre-screening back then! Without a doubt the most sexist books I have ever read. Grat fun! };] I had a girlfriend read them years later, she couldn't stop yelling every twenty minutes or so about how sexist they were... she read them all too! };] My only complaint, was that after a while, they became a bit repetitious...
Re: "The Adventures of Captain Morgan" Or "Damn That Mossfoo
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:20 pm
by Paradox
Malacandra wrote:[continues hijack]We should open a Gor thread in the off-topic forum then. I have read 26 of them and wrote some Cliff's Notes on the series for about seven years...
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LOL! See my response to SteveKing! }:]
Re: "The Adventures of Captain Morgan" Or "Damn That Mossfoo
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:42 pm
by Paradox
ClymAngus wrote:
You missed out the best part, his dad is banging his ex girlfriend. I love humans. Let us not forget that the morals of today were not the morals of the Roman empire and may not be the morals of tomorrow. Also being stuck in a box with attractive people facing life and death together, well quite frankly I'm quite sure there are many, many rocking cobras up there.
And that's just the humans. Combine that with the anthropomorphic variations and you have the possibility of some absolutely diabolical couplings. Look at the dark wheel for instance in that one, someone was acting as a spiderworm incubator (now that's what I call getting f***ed, right royally).
I'm sure there are pilots wearing their love interest/co-pilots like some strange constantly fornicating cephalopod space suit. Then you have slaves and prey items thrown into the mix. Imagine the Vixen on a ship crewed by timid rodent people? The possibilities for not only sex but weird screwed up interpersonal and cross species relationships are boundless.
We've touched on racism, but these works are good for the mind as they open doors. Expand the scope of the literature and invigorate the medium with even more interesting what ifs? They challenge people, presenting them with a more liberal universe. For authors it enables them to shake the pillars of established morality.
It's something that needed to happen. We write about killing people all the time, but we shy away from the physicality of life. Quick question: What is more common in your world, Sex or Death? So why are we all writing more about the rarer event?
Agreed! As stated before, it came as a surprise to me, to find my forte seemed to be with the interpersonal relationships rather than the tech/action aspect.
Fact: Spitfire nearly had a tail and catlike tendencies. But, Mossfoot introduced his cat-lady friend in his story, and I didn't want to sound like I was copying. And also, it started to feel too Anime-ish. Now, while I don't have anything against anime directly, being a member of DeviantArt has taught me to hate the genre as a whole, as it is thrown in your face EVERWHERE there now. As well as all the "fan-art" for Justin Beiber and Selena Gomez... ARGH! Oh, and MLP and associated "bronies". I want to airlock them all!
ClymAngus wrote:Nun nuffen shuper funish bunnber furl soorp.
<translation; "Hi! I've just read your slightly racier chapter and as a result I've forgotten how to talk! I'll be fine, give me 12 ice cubes and a tazer and I'll have it fixed in a jiffy." >
Is there anything that could possibly ruin this perfect romantic moment........ Of course there is.......
http://trekspace.ning.com/video/1977635:Video:103407
Okay, clip was too funny!
"slightly racier"? Hmm. might have to work on that! };]
But you do think, I managed to tread the finer line without "muddying" my boots?
Re: "The Adventures of Captain Morgan" Or "Damn That Mossfoo
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:53 pm
by Paradox
Malacandra wrote:We need a fan thread for these stories - the feedback posts are in dangerous of crowding out the episodes. But as long as I'm here (and not disciplining myself to write the next thousand words of SPP), I didn't miss the bit about Morgan's dad; that's why I talked about his stepmother.
Of course if you've read
Time Enough For Love then you know that a time-travelling Lazarus Long nails his own mother while she is pregnant with him, but it's not as bad as all that given that by then he's more than four thousand years old. Nevertheless, Long is still technically a mofo.
.
I read Heinlein back in high school as well, so my memory is a bit foggy now I'm afraid, but I do remember something to that effect.
Malacandra wrote:Which pales into insignificance next to the narrator of All You Zombies, who at age seventeen gives birth to a baby, is found to be ambiguously gendered during the difficult birth, is gender-reassigned as male, travels back in time at age thirty-four to seduce and impregnate himself (who has now grown from babyhood to the age of nearly seventeen), and later recruits himself to travel back in time on schedule in order to set the whole train of events in motion...
Heinlein was a strange man! };]
Re: "The Adventures of Captain Morgan" Or "Damn That Mossfoo
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:58 pm
by Paradox
spud42 wrote:cold shower need a cold shower now!!!!
no lines crossed all is well with the ooniverse.....
<doin' the happy dance!> Well I did cross a line. That certainly wasn't anything I could have posted on this forum. But... I am thrilled that you still found it acceptable reading, and not just gratuitous sex. };]
spud42 wrote:loved the Lazarus Long stories.... havent read the zombie book Malacandra mentioned.......
Nor have I, maybe someday... };]
Re: "The Adventures of Captain Morgan" Or "Damn That Mossfoo
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:03 pm
by Paradox
Neelix wrote:Paradox wrote:
But now I gotta know what part of the story triggered the River flashback! PM me if you have to! }:]
This bit: (in combination with the illustration you posted of Bee a while back)
Static made the short, fine white hair on her head, stand out in all directions, like little rays of moonlight.
- Neelix
OH! Okay, I get it now! };]
Re: "The Adventures of Captain Morgan" Or "Damn That Mossfoo
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:56 pm
by ClymAngus
Paradox wrote:
"slightly racier"? Hmm. might have to work on that! };]
But you do think, I managed to tread the finer line without "muddying" my boots?
Look, your not writing an episode of the x files here with people endlessly dancing around the point. With characters of this type, physical and earthy (not sh*t scared of invading each others personal space) then things are going to progress. Also what the hell is wrong with a bit of well written sex? Dark wheel has prostitutes on hover pads. The door was already ajar, it didn't need to be kicked in, just pushed open. Which is exactly what you did.
I used to write the odd pornographic piece for some online sites, back when such things were considered edgy and a novelty. I'd like to say erotic fiction but na! There was a lot of panting, thrusting etc etc etc.
But reading through your work sir And THAT, is good work. You can't be all things to all people. but you kept it on an even keel, with everyone having fun. It didn't get dark at all which is not what you need for such moments. Difficult to write but a good job well executed.
Re: "The Adventures of Captain Morgan" Or "Damn That Mossfoo
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:53 pm
by Malacandra
Paradox wrote:
SteveKing wrote:Have you read any of John Norman's 'Gor' series?
Great story with.. er.. benefits
OMG! Yes, I actually read the whole series way back in high school! Our librarians obviously didn't do much pre-screening back then! Without a doubt the most sexist books I have ever read. Grat fun! };] I had a girlfriend read them years later, she couldn't stop yelling every twenty minutes or so about how sexist they were... she read them all too! };] My only complaint, was that after a while, they became a bit repetitious...
Norman's books suffered more and more from a lack of editing as the series went on;
Nomads and
Assassin <-- note singular were both long-ish books but full of adventure, while some of the later ones started to drone. There was very little explicit sex, though, and tbh reading Gor books for sex is like catching a transatlantic flight because you like peanuts.
A lady friend of mine who was a duly-articled left-wing feminist with a record of anti-nuclear marches to prove it found the books utterly irresistible, and I'd bet dollars to donuts that under other circumstances (mainly the fact that she was married...) she would cheerfully have roleplayed being my Gorean slave, collar, costume and all, while drawing the line at being branded. And in about 2000 I was to learn, much to my surprise, that there's a whole subculture out there in which the women are extremely eager participants. More things in heaven and earth, Horatio.
Re: "The Adventures of Captain Morgan" Or "Damn That Mossfoo
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:19 pm
by Paradox
ClymAngus wrote:Paradox wrote:
"slightly racier"? Hmm. might have to work on that! };]
But you do think, I managed to tread the finer line without "muddying" my boots?
Look, your not writing an episode of the x files here with people endlessly dancing around the point. With characters of this type, physical and earthy (not sh*t scared of invading each others personal space) then things are going to progress. Also what the hell is wrong with a bit of well written sex? Dark wheel has prostitutes on hover pads. The door was already ajar, it didn't need to be kicked in, just pushed open. Which is exactly what you did.
I used to write the odd pornographic piece for some online sites, back when such things were considered edgy and a novelty. I'd like to say erotic fiction but na! There was a lot of panting, thrusting etc etc etc.
But reading through your work sir And THAT, is good work. You can't be all things to all people. but you kept it on an even keel, with everyone having fun. It didn't get dark at all which is not what you need for such moments. Difficult to write but a good job well executed.
Wow... Thank you! Ego fully inflated now! };] Like I said, I believe there is another line yet that
could be crossed, but I don't really feel the desire to cross that one. So far, everyone's comment have been surprisingly positive. I am pleased I was able to show that sex could be done in a tasteful way! Off to work on the next chapter! Thanks again!
Re: "The Adventures of Captain Morgan" Or "Damn That Mossfoo
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:31 pm
by Paradox
Malacandra wrote:Norman's books suffered more and more from a lack of editing as the series went on; Nomads and Assassin <-- note singular were both long-ish books but full of adventure, while some of the later ones started to drone. There was very little explicit sex, though, and tbh reading Gor books for sex is like catching a transatlantic flight because you like peanuts.
A lady friend of mine who was a duly-articled left-wing feminist with a record of anti-nuclear marches to prove it found the books utterly irresistible, and I'd bet dollars to donuts that under other circumstances (mainly the fact that she was married...) she would cheerfully have roleplayed being my Gorean slave, collar, costume and all, while drawing the line at being branded. And in about 2000 I was to learn, much to my surprise, that there's a whole subculture out there in which the women are extremely eager participants. More things in heaven and earth, Horatio.
I know that a few people on DeviantArt have played with the subject in a variety of media. The idea of branding was uncomfortable to me in high school, but all the rest was
terribly fascinating! };] Is it any wonder I didn't do book reports?