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Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:27 pm
by Disembodied
Another clue: both films are connected to this novel (not itself a science fiction novel, I should say) in the same way ...

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:59 pm
by ffutures
Disembodied wrote:
OK: what classic novel connects the first two Alien films, and how? (i.e. Alien and Aliens, I'm not counting a pile of prequel yad like Prometheus - Ridely Scott clearly can't be trusted with a big budget ...)
I'm guessing Heart of Darkness by Conrad which has a ship called Nostromo.

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:00 pm
by Disembodied
Nope ... you're getting warm, but not correct (and the ship in Heart of Darkness is called the Nellie).

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:05 pm
by Cody
In that case, it must be Nostromo by Conrad - which also mentions Sulaco, I think.

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:07 pm
by Disembodied
Cody wrote:
In that case, it must be Nostromo by Conrad - which also mentions Sulaco, I think.
That's the one! The ship in Alien is called Nostromo, after Conrad's novel of the same name. And the ship in Aliens is called the Sulaco, which is the name of the fictitious South American town where Conrad's Nostromo is set.

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:11 pm
by Cody
It's been a very long time since I read any Conrad, so I had to dig for the Sulaco link. Back with a new question shortly!

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:02 pm
by Cody
Back to Conrad for a sec - Apocalypse Now is heavily hooked into Heart of Darkness.

It's difficult to be certain that I haven't asked this before: in which novel does a marooned Earthman join a subspace caravan in search of a starship?

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:00 pm
by ffutures
Disembodied wrote:
Cody wrote:
In that case, it must be Nostromo by Conrad - which also mentions Sulaco, I think.
That's the one! The ship in Alien is called Nostromo, after Conrad's novel of the same name. And the ship in Aliens is called the Sulaco, which is the name of the fictitious South American town where Conrad's Nostromo is set.
Damn - that's what I get for not checking my facts!

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:37 pm
by Cody
Clue the second: it's a one-off novel (I think) from the 80's, and was rather obscure - but has recently been revised and re-released.

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 1:43 pm
by Cody
Clue the third: the stranded Earthman's friend is an alien, a type of intelligent cat with some unusual abilities.

Supplemental: the alien is known as an Aircat; subspace caravans are hauled by waybeasts.

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 1:45 pm
by Tichy
Is it The Shadow of the Ship by Robert Wilfred Franson?

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 1:47 pm
by Cody
It is indeed The Shadow of the Ship - a strange novel, but well worth a read, especially the revised edition (it seems).

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 1:59 pm
by Tichy
Cody wrote:
It is indeed The Shadow of the Ship - a strange novel, but well worth a read, especially the revised edition (it seems).
I didn't knew it. :)

Maybe easy: "In which movie, adapted from a novel, men are used as pets, or exterminated if found in the wild, by giant blue aliens?"

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:26 pm
by spud42
L.Ron Hubbard??? Battlefield Earth. dont think they are blue though...

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:31 pm
by Venator Dha
Sounds like 'Yellow submarine' to me :lol: