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Rxke wrote:

Sounds *very much* like one of the thought experiments in Gödel Esher Bach... But that's hardly science fiction, more science philosophy...

Not from GEB, but you are quite close

It was a made into an episode for a dutch tv movie, and it inspired a very recent (2014) movie reboot.
(Bonus point for who guess these movies )

Gawd, I know that episode so well Influenced my thinking quite deeply (blew my socks off)

Stumbled upon it on youtube some years ago, was great to see it again, How time flies, he looks just like a kid in that docu... Can't seem to find it now

(Pretty sure I know the answer now, BTW )

Tichy wrote:

spud42 wrote:

well this one is from left field as the yanks tend to say so to keep this thread rolling post your answer...

all i ask is have you heard of the author and some of his other very fine books?

Ok. It was Kuldesak by Richard Cowper.

This author was unknown to me.


This one could be a bit harder: "When your brain controls your body remotely, you have to deal with lags"

you sir are quite correct. Richrd Cowper is actually a pseudonym , he wrote a quite a few good books in my opinion. well worth the read.

something jogs my memory but it is buried deep..... this could take a while...

rxke if you know then just answer...ll then its your turn to come up with a question...

spud42 wrote:

rxke if you know then just answer...ll then its your turn to come up with a question...

I can't!!! I'm busy at work, I don't have time to type away on BBSes!


oh wait....


(I'm on my break, really, I am. And the post before, well...... That was the computer was exporting gigs and gigs of fff files, so I had to wait until it was free to do err work and stuff )

Another tip: Strange things happens when your brain and its electronic copy are no longer aligned

Strange things happens when your brain and its electronic copy are no longer aligned

Is that Die-Hard guy somehow connected?

cbr wrote:

Strange things happens when your brain and its electronic copy are no longer aligned

Is that Die-Hard guy somehow connected?

Bruce Willis? No.
The main character is the author (which is a philosopher) and looks like Santa Claus

Tip: In the story, he calls it's body and it's brain with Shakespear characters' names.

https://youtu.be/_F_4BeK4EjY?t=30m38s

(For the whole experience, watch from the beginning)

Rxke wrote:

https://youtu.be/_F_4BeK4EjY?t=30m38s

(For the whole experience, watch from the beginning)

Correct: the movie/documentary is Victim of the brain.

...but the name of the story is?

For fame & glory, do you also know which recent movie reboot is partially inspired from this thought experiment? (Tip: many character in this movie are named after philosophers of mind)

Where am I by Daniel Dennett


Robocop 2 (? II ?)

Rxke wrote:

Where am I by Daniel Dennett

Correct!
http://www.newbanner.com/SecHumSCM/WhereAmI.html

Rxke wrote:

Robocop 2 (? II ?)

Almost correct. It was the 2014 remake of Robocop. The scientist that rebuilds Murphy is called Dennett Norton, and there's a scene where he explains that the biologic brain of Murphy works in parallel with an electronic copy of it: when Murphy/Robocop goes in "combat mode", the electronic copy gets in control of the body, while Murphy's mind keeps believing that he is in control. In Where am I, there's an almost identical situation.
https://tichy.github.io/robocop-2014.html (It's in italian)
http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2014/0 ... of-robocop (this is from Alva Noe, another philopher, which follows the "enactivist" approach, instead of the "functionalist" approach of Dennett)

You turn

Tichy wrote:

You turn

The real hard part...

okay... I hope I quote it sloppily, so Google gets confused

"We ++++ ice, it's what we do"

Title and author

(easy one i think?)

Pushing Ice, by Alastair Reynolds?

Indeed.

OK: what classic novel connects the first two Alien films, and how? (i.e. Alien and Aliens, I'm not counting a pile of prequel yad like Prometheus - Ridely Scott clearly can't be trusted with a big budget ...)