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Re: David Braben's Elite: Dangerous - Kickstarter!
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:58 am
by Diziet Sma
Rese249er wrote:The way I see it, the multiverse is an infinitely big place. A little "parallel universe" handwavium covers the continuity AND Oolite canon problems quite handily, I think.
Ahh.. the "Star Trek Rebooted" Manoeuvre..
Re: David Braben's Elite: Dangerous - Kickstarter!
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:21 am
by Rese249er
Hopefully not to be confused with the "Kobayashi Maru Maneuvre;" those end with a lot of slapped space bars, in my experience.
Re: David Braben's Elite: Dangerous - Kickstarter!
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:31 am
by Diziet Sma
It's almost a pity the Corbomite Manoeuvre won't work in Oolite..
Re: David Braben's Elite: Dangerous - Kickstarter!
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:34 am
by drew
Seriously thinking about a kickstarter now... I mean... what's to lose? <shrug>
I'd want to know that the 'zeitgeist' of this board is behind me if I went for it. Not asking for actual pledges, but just knowing that the cOomunity is generally in favour of me giving this a go. In the words of Aragorn son of Arathorn...
"What say you?"
Cheers,
Drew.
ps. Who fancies a cameo in the novella as a pledge?
Re: David Braben's Elite: Dangerous - Kickstarter!
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:07 am
by Thargoid
The alien contingent is behind you ( ), I'll even proof-read it again if you want. And maybe even tell hanger from hangar this time...
Re: David Braben's Elite: Dangerous - Kickstarter!
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:07 am
by Gimi
drew wrote:Seriously thinking about a kickstarter now... I mean... what's to lose? <shrug>
Oh dear, what have I done
Saw your comment on Kickstarter and came straight here.....
Well, I would support it and I would back it without reducing my E:D pledge. (I do believe my wife is going to have one of those sit down talks with me come Jan 4th though)
drew wrote:ps. Who fancies a cameo in the novella as a pledge?
Hmmm. You couldn't make my name fit in there.....
Then again, if you can do DaddyHoggy, you can do anything....
Re: David Braben's Elite: Dangerous - Kickstarter!
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:14 am
by drew
Gimi wrote:Then again, if you can do DaddyHoggy, you can do anything....
(genuinely!)
Cheers,
Drew.
Re: David Braben's Elite: Dangerous - Kickstarter!
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:36 am
by Disembodied
I don't think it's worth paying £4,500 for a licence to write fan-fiction that you can sell, with only an outside chance of ever making the money back, when you can write the fan-fiction for free and give it away - or write a story set in your own universe, and sell that, without having to pay £4,500 for the privilege (and without having it vetted by FD first).
I don't know if FD have already tried, and failed, to sell a licence to a publisher, e.g. Tor (who publish the EVE Online official novelisations - which seem to be weighing in at 400 pages and 600+ pages, or between 140,000 words and 210,000 words at a rough guess - and which also seem to be written by employees of CCP Games). If they have, and Tor didn't bite, that might say something about their opinion of the potential market. If they haven't, and this is a Friday-afternoon kind of notion from FD, then maybe that says something too ...
Edited to add: the fact that the EVE novelisations are written by CCP Games employees suggests to me that the novelisations resulted from some sort of co-operation between Tor and CCP. I doubt if Tor paid anything for a licence: probably CCP saw it as a potential sideline earner and a good way of promoting the game. Although that's just speculation on my part.
Re: David Braben's Elite: Dangerous - Kickstarter!
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:46 am
by Diziet Sma
One part of me says 'Go for it!'..
The other part says 'Pay attention to Disembodied, he knows whereof he speaks'..
Re: David Braben's Elite: Dangerous - Kickstarter!
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:55 am
by drew
I couldn't afford, or justify, £4.5k myself. But a kickstarter would either allow or deny that opportunity. I'd time it to run out the day before the E:D kickstarter does - no risk to me then - I can bail out of the high pledge required if I don't make the funds.
Is it worth it? Perhaps not, but I wonder if I'd kick myself for not having a go. It's 'Elite' after all...
Cheers,
Drew.
Re: David Braben's Elite: Dangerous - Kickstarter!
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:14 am
by Commander McLane
I'm with the alien contingent, including the proof-reading offer (although my email to you with my notes to
Finis is still in my "Drafts"
).
Re: David Braben's Elite: Dangerous - Kickstarter!
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:27 am
by Gimi
Disembodied is looking at this from a commercial perspective (mostly), and there his advice is golden. If I thought that Drew wanted to make any money from this in the end I would say don't do it. I'm looking at this as a way of supporting the development of E:D in a fun way. That takes much of the commercial aspect out of the equation. I'm not going to say "do it" either, as I know too little about the author, publisher etc. side of things, but I will support Drew if he chooses to go for it.
Re: David Braben's Elite: Dangerous - Kickstarter!
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:42 am
by drew
I'd be looking at it as a 'breakeven' commercial proposition from my perspective, minus my own time naturally.
I just like the idea of being 'baked' into the canon of Elite, officially. Call it overwhelming hubris. I'm going to ruminate on it for a while I think... all thoughts are welcome.
Cheers,
Drew.
Re: David Braben's Elite: Dangerous - Kickstarter!
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:55 am
by DaddyHoggy
Gimi wrote:drew wrote:Seriously thinking about a kickstarter now... I mean... what's to lose? <shrug>
Oh dear, what have I done
Saw your comment on Kickstarter and came straight here.....
Well, I would support it and I would back it without reducing my E:D pledge. (I do believe my wife is going to have one of those sit down talks with me come Jan 4th though)
drew wrote:ps. Who fancies a cameo in the novella as a pledge?
Hmmm. You couldn't make my name fit in there.....
Then again, if you can do DaddyHoggy, you can do anything....
Ahem! We were just holding hands - those holovids were faked!
Re: David Braben's Elite: Dangerous - Kickstarter!
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:56 am
by DaddyHoggy
You have my backing Drew.