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Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:25 pm
by cim
Well, the lack of suggestions for that one rules out the Shockwave Rider question I was going to ask...

Something a little more well-known, then: what aspect of machine function can be tested with a slide rule, a stop watch, and a set of questions, in about fifteen minutes. (Obviously, lots of things; this is something which is not to a lay person obviously testable in that way)

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:25 pm
by Zieman
If the machine is really a machine?

Like is the machine a robot or human...

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:43 pm
by cim
No, not that.

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:43 pm
by JazHaz
The Turing test?

Ninja'd. Ignore me lol.

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:56 pm
by aegidian
cim wrote:
Something a little more well-known, then: what aspect of machine function can be tested with a slide rule, a stop watch, and a set of questions, in about fifteen minutes. (Obviously, lots of things; this is something which is not to a lay person obviously testable in that way)
Location of a weather sounding balloon? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_hor ... _technique

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:57 am
by cim
Interesting, but no, not that either.

Clue: a (different) simple test for the property Zieman suggested had been applied to the same machine earlier in the story, and had shown that it was indeed a machine.

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:30 am
by NigelJK
This is a reverse Voigt test from 'Do Andriods ...', and in the back of my mind has Asimov plastered all over it. Trying to remember the book name ...

I'll go for I,Robot for now.

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:50 am
by cim
Oh, getting close... but what property is being tested?

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:08 pm
by NigelJK
I'm guessing 'Human-ness'

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:10 pm
by NigelJK
So it might be one of the later Asimov books - The rest of the robots.

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:32 pm
by Rxke
empathy, surely?

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:42 pm
by cim
No, not humanness. At the point this test was being applied the machine was unambiguously known to be a machine. What was being tested is something some machines have and some do not. No humans have this property, and so would fail this indirect test for it, but could pass a more direct and unsubtle test for it if they chose to.

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:59 pm
by NigelJK
Having just re-read the the question:
emotions?

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:32 pm
by Disembodied
Whether or not the machine obeys the First Law of Robotics?

Re: Science Fiction Trivia

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:52 pm
by cim
Disembodied wrote:
Whether or not the machine obeys the First Law of Robotics?
Exactly correct.
Over to you.